Ibn Taymiyya the Sufi?!?!

[al-Qassam]

Here is the book.

[Al-Burhan]

:salam:

An interesing article I came across today. So, was Ibn Taymiyya a Sufi?! [shock horror] [Allah knows best!]

I am just shocked to know this... after reading this article I went through the Fatawa of Ibn Taymiyah and was pleasantly surprised to see the 'KITAABUT TASAWWUF' which consists of the whole vol 11 and 'KALIMAAT FI A'MAALIL QULOOB' which covers vol 10. It's really another fact revealed here that the so called salafis use his name to defame the sufis while he has highly praised the sufi sheikhs in his writings... SubhanAllah.

The only thing which he has refuted mainly is the aqeedah of HULOOL and ITTEHAAD which is also negated by the Deobandi scholars and other Ahlus Sunnah sufis.

Ibn TAymiyah RA has discussed the concept of FANA in quite detail and any one with good arabic will do good to translate it for us. I am quoting (attachment) here some interesting discussion of this topic by him, but surely it's not all what he said. Because there are almost two complete volumes on this and related topics.

Discussing the topic of fana he said that some times a person is overpowered by the love of Allah so much that he forgets himself and loses his senses (due to his weakness of heart). In such a state he may utter words which apparently contradict shariah like Ana Al Haqq and so on. In this case the person is excused because he didn't say it deliberately. He further said that such examples didn't occur in the time of sahabah because they were AKMAL and hence didn't became unconscious or lost their senses in this state. This however happened to some of the tabi'een where there are examples that some used to get unconscious on listening to quran and some even died...

The same happened to some sufi Sheikhs who while in the state of fana uttered some words apparently against shariah like Abi Yazid (Bistami), Abi Hussain Nuri and Abi Bakr Ash-Shibli, while there are other sufi sheikhs who unlike them didn't lost their senses in such state of Fana. These include Suleman Al Durrani, Ma'roof Al Karkhi, Fazeel bin Ayaz, Junaid Baghdadi etc...

It was a very brief summary of the discussion. After seeing Ibn Taymiyah RA's views on hearing of dead, the presenting of the deeds of alive on the dead and now tasawwuf, I think if the complete fatawa of Ibn TAymiyah RA could be translated to english more than half the salafis (I mean those who use his name to misguide others, not all salafis) will either leave him aside or will stop refuting others and would start thinking about better things.

[eTeacher]

In his Urdu book, "Tazkiyah wa Ihsan ya Tasawwuf wa Suluk" "What is Tasawwuf?", Sheikh Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi ( I love him), has written a whole chapter on Ibn Taymiya and has shown that he was a Sufi.

[OneLife]

Can somone define HULOOL and ITTEHAD, and what's wrong with them?

[Ramadani]

Can somone define HULOOL and ITTEHAD, and what's wrong with them?

Huluul means incarnation and ittihad means joining or fusion between different entities, both of which are logically impossible. Allah can't be confined to His creation for He is free from all limits while His creation is limited by time, space, place, direction and the like. It's equally impossible that Allah and His creation would fuse into one single existence. No Sufi, let alone Muslim believes in incarnation nor fusion between the Divine and the created.

[nik61]

Yeah I have read Ibn Taymiyah was very pro-Tassawuf. I haven't read the article yet.

When I was younger, I was against everything Ibnu Taymiyyah. But I grow older, I was made to realise by my Shaykh that you can't be too harsh on people.
Reflect upon yourself...

I make dua that Allah SWT will pardon Shaykh Ibnu Taymiyyah for all his past errors and the harsh statements he had about Shaykh al-Akbar Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi. Eventhough he may have erred, but he was still an Islamic scholar.

[hetgordijn]

Ibn Taymiyya famously authored Sharh Futuh Al Ghaib in his Majm Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya. It is said he was a qadri in silsila. You can read Sharh Futuh Al Ghaib volume 10 of his Fatawa Collection. Futuh Al Ghaib was written by the great Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jillani (RaheemAllah). َصْــل 47.

Could someone show me? Cause I can't find it.

[Saad]

Tasawwuf in the eyes of Allama Ibn Taimiyah and Allama Ibn Qayyim:

It is generally thought that Allama Ibn Taimiah and his disciple Allama Ibn Qayyim are against Tasawwuf while the fact is opposite. We are quoting views of these two in this regard from their own books:

Ibn Taimiah writs in his book, Jilaul-ainain about leading Sufis, Hasan Basari, Ibrahim bin Adham, Fuzail bin Eyaz, Maroof Karkhi, Bishr Hafi, Shaqiq balkhi, Junaid Baghdadi, Sahal Tastari, Abu-Talib Makki, Abdul-Qadir Jeelani that they are Mashaekh of Islam, Imams of Hidayat (guidance), Allah has given true tongue to Ummah in their regard'' (Jilaul-Ainain p:106)

He writes in his book ''As-simaa war Raqs'' about Ahmad bin Jawari, sir Siqti Abusulaiman Darani that they were among great Shoyookh Saliheen.

He writes in his book ''Al-Furqan baina Aulia -ar-Rahman wa Auliaish-Shaitan that all of them are Mashaekh of the Quran and Sunnah.
(Al-Furqan baina Aulia -ar-Rahman wa Auliaish-Shaitan p:44)

Allama Ibn Qayyim has written a commentary in three volumes on Manazil-e-Saireen by Allama Harawi. In the first volume he wrote in favour of Tasawwuf and presented many learned arguments and proofs in its support. In the second volume, he has mentioned simple acts of Tasawwuf. In the third volume, he has, according to his knowledge, passed criticism on Tasawwuf and Sufis.
(Al-Ihsaan, special issue of Mahnama Darululoom April 1993 p:105 to 110)

''Allama Ibn Taimiah has classified a special state of Tasawwuf called Fana (spiritual state in which, due to excess thinking and meditation about Allah, to a sufi nothing except Allah is existent) into three kinds. He says that the first kind of Fana is related to Prophets and Awlia-e-Kamileen; the second one is related to Qasideen, Awlia-e-saliheen. Explaining it, he says that the second kind is Fana from everything except Allah and this state happens to the most of Salikeen (people who walk on the path of Tasawwuf). This state comes when one is greatly inclined to love of Allah, His worship and remembrance. Wholly engagement in beloved hides the presence and existence of others. This state of Fana reaches such an extent that even all the creatures become invisible to him and only Allah remains visible. Since this Fana is weaker than the first one, this Fana does not occur to prophets and great Awliya (Allah's friends) such as Hazrat Siddiq Akbar, Hazrat Umar and other early Awliya. This Fana started from the period of Tabe'een. This happened to some of Mashaekh Sufis like Abu-Yazeed Bustami, Abul-Hasan Noori and Abu-Bakr Shibli etc. and did not happen to Abu-Sulaiman Darani, Maaroof Karkhi, Fuzail bin Eyaaz and Junaid Baghdadi.''
(al-Uboodiah p:98 Ref: Al-Ihsaan, special issue of Mahnama Darululoom April 1993 p:109,110)

Both Allama Ibn Taimiah and Allama Ibn Qayyim, in support of Tasawwuf, went to such an extent that they consider a Salik (treading the path of Tasawwuf) excusable if he overpowered by his spiritual unconsciousness utters ''Subhani maa aazama Sha'ni'' or ''maa fi jubbati il-lallah''(Glory be to me. How great I am! there is none but Allah in my gown)
(Madarijus-Salikeen v:1 p:84 Ref: Al-Ihsaan, special issue of Mahnama Darululoom April1993 p:110)

Madaarijus-Salikeen is an exhaustive book in three volumes on Tasawwuf authored by Allama ibn Qayyim published under special care of Allama Sayyid Rasheed Raza Al-Misri, which title carries this statement'' this is a book on Tasawwuf and realities of Ma'arif-e-Ilahiyah according to Allah's book, Sunnah and Salaf Saleh (great pious Muslims of early times)''. Shaikh Hamid Al-Fiqi, a staunch follower and fond of Allama Ibn Taimiah and Allama Ibn Qayyim expressed his worries on his abundant quotations and statements from Mashaekh Sufis. He frowns upon Allama Ibn Taimiah on his praise of sufis.
(Al-Ihsaan, special issue of Mahnama Darululoom April 1993 p:110,111)
Allama Ibn Rajab Hambali says that Ibn Qayyim possessed a high position in Tasawwuf and had a great deal of Azwaaq and Mawaajeed (plural of Zawq and Wajd)
(Al-Ihsaan, special issue of Mahnama Darululoom April 1993 p:110,111)

[hetgordijn]

that's just copy paste, but I was talking about the arabic, from his books ....

*edit* did he allow bay'ah?

[mospike]

Where are our fellow Salafi forumers now,,,, common folks......

I Love Ibnu Taymiyya (may Allahs mercy be upon him) and may his Qabr be filled with noor.