Shouldn't there be a distinction for the Mashaikh of Tasawwuf on Sunniforum?

[Voyager]

Asalaamu 'Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah,

As you may see this is my first post here on this forum. I had found and utilized the information posted on Sunniforum here and there but never had really checked the forum regularly. About two weeks back or so I started keeping up and reading threads on a daily basis. I've found it be educational (the 'ilmi posts/threads), spiritual (the posts/threads related to tasawwuf), and informative (the posts/threads regarding the latest news and/or history). Hence, today I mustered up the strength to finally post something.

After observing the different types of contributions to this forum, I have realized one consistency. If we take the education contributions for example we see that when any mas'alah is presented, the answer is taken from either a reliable scholar (whether that be one of the scholars on this website or a scholar that had posted on another website), a reliable book, or at least a person giving a reference that he heard so and so say this or that. We see something similar in the informative threads, whenever there is a thread regarding news stories, there's always some link to an article that verifies the story or at least a person mentions where they heard it. I have found that the reasonable brothers and sisters of the forum don't entertain hearsay when it comes to these things nor do they endorse the dissemination of it.

But, keeping all of this in mind I noticed one grave inconsistency that has puzzled me. This inconsistency is regarding the spiritual threads/posts on Sunniforum. I have found great contributions from brothers and sisters of the forum with their experiences in the company of the Masaikh, the sayings of the Mashaikh taken from books and websites, and links to their talks and articles. Along side this though I have also come across posts by people who sometimes, whether knowingly or unknowingly, give spiritual advice to others without any reference. Sometimes these are prescriptions of particular ma'mulaat and adhkaar that are given without any reference linking them to Nabi (saw) or any of the Mashaikh. This troubled me because no one seemed to say anything about it either. Shouldn't there be the same protocol when it comes to tasawwuf? That it should be taken from the Mashaikh who have traversed the path under a Shaykh and have received ijazah to guide others?

Keeping this in mind I propose to the Administrators/Moderators of this forum that there should be a new feature added that shows us the people on the forum who have ijazahs from reputable Mashaikh. For example, like there is a feature that denotes a 'Mufti' and 'Scholar' under their username, there should also be one that denotes a Shaykh of tasawwuf as well. I personally do not know any Mashaikh that post on this forum but I'm sure there are some users out there who have ijazah in this field. It would probably be better if we took benefit from them regarding these matters.

What do you brothers and sisters think about this idea? These are just my humble observances and opinions so please advise me if I have erred.

JazakAllah
Wassalaam

[FususAlHikam]

Asalaamu 'Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah,

As you may see this is my first post here on this forum. I had found and utilized the information posted on Sunniforum here and there but never had really checked the forum regularly. About two weeks back or so I started keeping up and reading threads on a daily basis. I've found it be educational (the 'ilmi posts/threads), spiritual (the posts/threads related to tasawwuf), and informative (the posts/threads regarding the latest news and/or history). Hence, today I mustered up the strength to finally post something.

After observing the different types of contributions to this forum, I have realized one consistency. If we take the education contributions for example we see that when any mas'alah is presented, the answer is taken from either a reliable scholar (whether that be one of the scholars on this website or a scholar that had posted on another website), a reliable book, or at least a person giving a reference that he heard so and so say this or that. We see something similar in the informative threads, whenever there is a thread regarding news stories, there's always some link to an article that verifies the story or at least a person mentions where they heard it. I have found that the reasonable brothers and sisters of the forum don't entertain hearsay when it comes to these things nor do they endorse the dissemination of it.

But, keeping all of this in mind I noticed one grave inconsistency that has puzzled me. This inconsistency is regarding the spiritual threads/posts on Sunniforum. I have found great contributions from brothers and sisters of the forum with their experiences in the company of the Masaikh, the sayings of the Mashaikh taken from books and websites, and links to their talks and articles. Along side this though I have also come across posts by people who sometimes, whether knowingly or unknowingly, give spiritual advice to others without any reference. Sometimes these are prescriptions of particular ma'mulaat and adhkaar that are given without any reference linking them to Nabi (saw) or any of the Mashaikh. This troubled me because no one seemed to say anything about it either. Shouldn't there be the same protocol when it comes to tasawwuf? That it should be taken from the Mashaikh who have traversed the path under a Shaykh and have received ijazah to guide others?

Keeping this in mind I propose to the Administrators/Moderators of this forum that there should be a new feature added that shows us the people on the forum who have ijazahs from reputable Mashaikh. For example, like there is a feature that denotes a 'Mufti' and 'Scholar' under their username, there should also be one that denotes a Shaykh of tasawwuf as well. I personally do not know any Mashaikh that post on this forum but I'm sure there are some users out there who have ijazah in this field. It would probably be better if we took benefit from them regarding these matters.

What do you brothers and sisters think about this idea? These are just my humble observances and opinions so please advise me if I have erred.

JazakAllah
Wassalaam

Good idea, for the Ulama on here. I think ulama need distinction definitely.

As far as bros with ijazat, I know a couple on here and they are hidden. There are bros who do not want to be known and maybe bros who made mistake to become known and regret it. It all depends. Maybe there are bros whose shaikh wanted them to remain unknown as shuyookh but still help people. But I think you can tell from the persons posting and advices what he is about.

[Voyager]

Good idea, for the Ulama on here. I think ulama need distinction definitely.

As far as bros with ijazat, I know a couple on here and they are hidden. There are bros who do not want to be known and maybe bros who made mistake to become known and regret it. It all depends. Maybe there are bros whose shaikh wanted them to remain unknown as shuyookh but still help people. But I think you can tell from the persons posting and advices what he is about.

JazakAllah for your response brother Fusus.

I understand that if a person's shaykh specifically wanted them to stay unknown as a shaykh but what about the others? I'm sure that the 'ulema don't particularly want to be known on the forum, but they are because they possess something that people can recognize and benefit from. So I believe that those who are shuyookh of tasawwuf on the forum and haven't been given instruction to remain hidden should be pointed out for the benefit of the community. I see nothing but nafa' in this for Sunniforum.

Wassalaam

[mercyofAllah]

Bismillahirrahmanirraheem
Yes it would be nice bcos then people like me would pay special attention to their words and advise and benefit from it as in forums everyone advise from laymen to all in which case we might be in dilemma ignoring all and thus missing the good posts. If we know it is a person of tasawwuf, then we will take their words and advise as something very precious and pay very special attention and the simple and valauble tip in getting benefit from anything is to have the azmat of that thing in our mind as said by my sheikh. Honorable people might consider this and help people like me.
Wassalam

[Voyager]

Bismillahirrahmanirraheem
Yes it would be nice bcos then people like me would pay special attention to their words and advise and benefit from it as in forums everyone advise from laymen to all in which case we might be in dilemma ignoring all and thus missing the good posts. If we know it is a person of tasawwuf, then we will take their words and advise as something very precious and pay very special attention and the simple and valauble tip in getting benefit from anything is to have the azmat of that thing in our mind as said by my sheikh. Honorable people might consider this and help people like me.
Wassalam

I complete agree with you sister. I feel that I would also have special value and pay close attention to their posts if the Mashaikh were made known. I'm sure we are not the only two who would benefit either, just like people benefit form the Scholars being made known, I believe everyone would benefit from the Mashaikh being made known as well.

This would be a great step in closing the gap between knowledge and action that seems to be especially prevalent in internet communities.

[Voyager]

Does anyone else have any input on this?

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Slm..I don't agree with this idea..the person who's got ijaza will have to ask his sheikh before starting anything and I think it would not be easy for the person to ask..I donw there is maybe nafa aswel but I dont agree..slm

[Voyager]

Slm..I don't agree with this idea..the person who's got ijaza will have to ask his sheikh before starting anything and I think it would not be easy for the person to ask..I donw there is maybe nafa aswel but I dont agree..slm

Hm....makes you wonder whether the people that Brother Fusus mentioned in his post have informed their mashaikh of how they're going about doing that on sunniforum...

Alhamdulillah I've known Hazrat Mufti Nawalur Rahman Sahab (db) for many years and I don't believe Hazrat would be okay with this approach to islah and tarbiyah. I might be wrong though, but it never occured to me to be Hazrat's mizaaj.

Every Shaykh is of a different mizaaj though so others may allow it.

[FususAlHikam]

Hm....makes you wonder whether the people that Brother Fusus mentioned in his post have informed their mashaikh of how they're going about doing that on sunniforum...

Alhamdulillah I've known Hazrat Mufti Nawalur Rahman Sahab (db) for many years and I don't believe Hazrat would be okay with this approach to islah and tarbiyah. I might be wrong though, but it never occured to me to be Hazrat's mizaaj.

Every Shaykh is of a different mizaaj though so others may allow it.

What is Hazrats mizaaj? Please expound on this so we can benefit, jazakallah!

[Voyager]

What is Hazrats mizaaj? Please expound on this so we can benefit, jazakallah!

Hazrat I have only had a ta'alluq with him as Hazrat Mufti Saab (db) is a senior 'alim and a senior shaykh of the silsilah, you would be able to expound better on his mizaaj I'm sure. I was just speaking generally that it didn't occur to me to be his method of going about these things. But like I said, I may be wrong...

Regarding the specific question of islah and tarbiyah work on internet forums, perhaps you can ask Hazrat and let us know what he says?

JazakAllah
Wassalaam