Men and Women have Equal Rights - Women have same rights as men

[alifareeda]

Takbeer!!!!!!!!!!AllahuAkbar!!!!!!!!!!!

if this responder had read Quran with meaning he would know what Allah swt. says in Holy Quran

"MEN AND WOMEN HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS"....ALHMDULILLAH...Allah swt. gave same right to women as men.

- I've never heard any sister shouting and saying Takbeer.

- From my little experience, I've observed some sister's thread who were quite rude natured but this thread seems different to me.

- OP is answering only to those posts where there's chance to dispute.

- OP's tone has been changed.

- Informative posts are being skipped (except Colonel's).

- Pugnacious replies from OP.

Conclusion:

[Zahed]

Takbeer!!!!!!!!!!AllahuAkbar!!!!!!!!!!!

if this responder had read Quran with meaning he would know what Allah swt. says in Holy Quran

"MEN AND WOMEN HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS"....ALHMDULILLAH...Allah swt. gave same right to women as men.

Respected sister,

My point was about "shouting" because you used capital letters.
At first you were seeking for proofs about Tabligh but later you started criticizings to other posts. Hence I couldn't understand your intention.
Allah didn't give equal rights to men and women. Do you have the right to call the Adhan?

[abuhajira]

Takbeer!!!!!!!!!!AllahuAkbar!!!!!!!!!!!

if this responder had read Quran with meaning he would know what Allah swt. says in Holy Quran

"MEN AND WOMEN HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS"....ALHMDULILLAH...Allah swt. gave same right to women as men.

sister,

which Ayah is that?

[Sulaiman84]

And they (women) have rights (that men owe to them) similar to those (that men have) over them (which should be fulfilled) in kindness. (However) men have a degree (of responsibility and guardianship) above them (above women). Allaah is Mighty (over His creation), Wise (in the laws He passes for people).

- Suratul Baqarah: 228

Male and female are not alike.

- Surah Aali 'Imraan: 36

Men have charge over women (as their overseers, guardians, protectors) because of the virtue (distinction) Allaah has (in His wisdom) bestowed some of you over others and because of what they (men) spend (on women) from their wealth.

- Suratun Nisaa':34

[alifareeda]

surah baqar....ayat228...

AND WOMEN SHALL HAVE RIGHTS SIMILAR TO THE RIGHTS AGAINST THEM...


Inshallah my new post will be..... RIGHTS OF WOMEN IN ISLAM.. in detail very soon

All bros. and sis. can share their knowledge.....

sister,

which Ayah is that?

[alifareeda]

respected brother...rights and similar identity are two different things...As pertaining ur adhan it comes under identity but not rights.No wonder i told u read tafseer of Quran...Inshallh my next post will be in very detail about what is rights and what is identity in... RIGHTS OF WOMEN IN ISLAM

Respected sister,

My point was about "shouting" because you used capital letters.
At first you were seeking for proofs about Tabligh but later you started criticizings to other posts. Hence I couldn't understand your intention.
Allah didn't give equal rights to men and women. Do you have the right to call the Adhan?

[Sulaiman84]

surah baqar....ayat228...

AND WOMEN SHALL HAVE RIGHTS SIMILAR TO THE RIGHTS AGAINST THEM...

It would put things into perspective had you finished that verse.

[alifareeda]

i quoted prescribed and very related ayat..

It would put things into perspective had you finished that verse.

[abuhajira]

Takbeer!!!!!!!!!!AllahuAkbar!!!!!!!!!!!

if this responder had read Quran with meaning he would know what Allah swt. says in Holy Quran

"MEN AND WOMEN HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS"....ALHMDULILLAH...Allah swt. gave same right to women as men.

You have quoted Surah Baqara Verse 228, to show that when the ayah mentions equal rights, it is referring to them both having the same rights. Please see above.

Here is a portion from Ma'ariful Quran for english readers. This is under the explanation of this Ayah.

Please note the 2nd paragraph, having equal rights does not dictate same rights, rather that just as the right of man be honored by the woman, so should the rights of woman be honored by the man.

Here is the tafseer from Ibn Kather:

تفسير ابن كثير - (1 / 609)
وقوله: { وَلَهُنَّ مِثْلُ الَّذِي عَلَيْهِنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ } أي: ولهن على الرجال من الحق مثل ما للرجال عليهن، فلْيؤد كل واحد منهما إلى الآخر ما يجب عليه بالمعروف، كما ثبت في صحيح مسلم، عن جابر، أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال في خطبته، في حجة الوداع: "فاتقوا الله في النساء، فإنكم أخذتموهُنّ بأمانة الله، واستحللتم فروجهن بكلمة الله، ولكم عليهن ألا يُوطِئْنَ فُرُشَكم أحدًا تكرهونه، فإن فعلن ذلك فاضربوهن ضربًا غير مُبَرِّح، ولهن رزقهن وكسوتهن بالمعروف" . وفي حديث بهز بن حكيم، عن معاوية بن حَيْدَة القُشَيري، عن أبيه، عن جده، أنه قال: يا رسول الله، ما حق زوجة أحدنا؟
قال: "أن تطعمها إذا طعمْتَ، وتكسوها إذا اكتسيت، ولا تضرب الوجه، ولا تُقَبِّح، ولا تهجر إلا في البيت" . وقال وَكِيع عن بشير بن سليمان، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عباس قال: إني لأحب أن أتزيَّن للمرأة كما أحب أن تتزين لي المرأة؛ لأن الله يقول: { وَلَهُنَّ مِثْلُ الَّذِي عَلَيْهِنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ } رواه ابن جرير، وابن أبي حاتم.

Nabi explained the rights when questioned. The Nafaqa, Clothing, Sukna are rights for women etc, while she must not let any stranger enter his home etc. So clearly the idea of equal rights being the "same" rights is not correct.

And no, these are not the differences of "identity" or status of either as explicit from the above. We can also expound some other tafaseer too.

['Abdullaah]

You have quoted Surah Baqara Verse 228, to show that when the ayah mentions equal rights, it is referring to them both having the same rights. Please see above.

Here is a portion from Ma'ariful Quran for english readers. This is under the explanation of this Ayah.

Please note the 2nd paragraph, having equal rights does not dictate same rights, rather that just as the right of man be honored by the woman, so should the rights of woman be honored by the man.

Here is the tafseer from Ibn Kather:

تفسير ابن كثير - (1 / 609)
وقوله: { وَلَهُنَّ مِثْلُ الَّذِي عَلَيْهِنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ } أي: ولهن على الرجال من الحق مثل ما للرجال عليهن، فلْيؤد كل واحد منهما إلى الآخر ما يجب عليه بالمعروف، كما ثبت في صحيح مسلم، عن جابر، أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال في خطبته، في حجة الوداع: "فاتقوا الله في النساء، فإنكم أخذتموهُنّ بأمانة الله، واستحللتم فروجهن بكلمة الله، ولكم عليهن ألا يُوطِئْنَ فُرُشَكم أحدًا تكرهونه، فإن فعلن ذلك فاضربوهن ضربًا غير مُبَرِّح، ولهن رزقهن وكسوتهن بالمعروف" . وفي حديث بهز بن حكيم، عن معاوية بن حَيْدَة القُشَيري، عن أبيه، عن جده، أنه قال: يا رسول الله، ما حق زوجة أحدنا؟
قال: "أن تطعمها إذا طعمْتَ، وتكسوها إذا اكتسيت، ولا تضرب الوجه، ولا تُقَبِّح، ولا تهجر إلا في البيت" . وقال وَكِيع عن بشير بن سليمان، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عباس قال: إني لأحب أن أتزيَّن للمرأة كما أحب أن تتزين لي المرأة؛ لأن الله يقول: { وَلَهُنَّ مِثْلُ الَّذِي عَلَيْهِنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ } رواه ابن جرير، وابن أبي حاتم.

Nabi explained the rights when questioned. The Nafaqa, Clothing, Sukna are rights for women etc, while she must not let any stranger enter his home etc. So clearly the idea of equal rights being the "same" rights is not correct.

And no, these are not the differences of "identity" or status of either as explicit from the above. We can also expound some other tafaseer too.

That's a beneficial post, mashaAllaah.
However, it doesn't seem like the poster intended any meaning different than what you have posted.

She may have used the word "same", but it didn't seem like it was implied in the literal sense.
And Allaah knows best.