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    I am a sunni.I hate Muawiya,Yazid& Umayyad Dynasty. I don't like 3rd Caliph uthhman 's gonernment.Please expain me.


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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?

    I think that muawiya is not sahaba.Yazeed is enemy of islam.They hate ah-al bayth.If anyone hate ah-al-bayth,equal to hate rasulullah Mohammed(sa).


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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jafar Hussain View Post
    I am a sunni.I hate Muawiya,Yazid& Umayyad Dynasty. I don't like 3rd Caliph uthhman 's gonernment.Please expain me.
    You are not a Sunni if you hate Mu'awiyah or do not like Uthman radhiallahu ta'ala 'anhuma.
    ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا


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    asler mualaicom Mr Abdulwahhab,islam is created by Allah.Not by humans.Sunni,Shia,and Salafi groups are created by humans.i can't accept these groups.i accept pure islam.i am the follower of allah and nabis.sahabas are human, not angels.If they do any Gunna,they will punish by Allah.Sahabas are not Nabis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jafar Hussain View Post
    asler mualaicom Mr Abdulwahhab,islam is created by Allah.Not by humans.Sunni,Shia,and Salafi groups are created by humans.i can't accept these groups.i accept pure islam.i am the follower of allah and nabis.sahabas are human, not angels.If they do any Gunna,they will punish by Allah.Sahabas are not Nabis.
    exactly Mr jafar..Islam is a relegion made by ALLAH SWT and we have no right to amend the course and call out skeptics Kafir!
    But dude please refer to what ALLAH SWT says in the Quran the He is pleased with them. So Alhumdulillah. ALLAH is pleased with them. Its enough evidence to support the khulfa rashideen are other Sahabah R.A.

    secondly dude what is this "asler mualaicom" cant u spell Assalam alyukum properly? sad about that!

    And lastly, avoid the majlis of ****te ...its like ****!
    ta'ajjub hai us shakhs per jo SHAYTAN ko apna dushman manta hai aur phr us hi ki rah per chalta hai!


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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jafar Hussain View Post
    asler mualaicom Mr Abdulwahhab,islam is created by Allah.Not by humans.Sunni,Shia,and Salafi groups are created by humans.i can't accept these groups.i accept pure islam.i am the follower of allah and nabis.sahabas are human, not angels.If they do any Gunna,they will punish by Allah.Sahabas are not Nabis.
    Allah says about the sahabas:
    Radhiallahu 'anhum wa radhoo 'anhu

    So, if anyone is displeased with something that pleases Allah , how can that person call himself a Muslim?
    ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا


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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?



    If you have hatred Mu'aawiyah Radhiyallahu Anhu and Uthman Radhiya Allahu Anhu, then you shouldn't even read the Qur'aan.

    I honestly have not a spec of respect for anyone who has qualms with Uthman Dhun-Nurayn Radhiya Allahu Anhu. May Allah Ta'aala grant him 1000s of blessings for each time he is maligned. Ameen.
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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?

    Why Do I Love Muawiya?Please Tell Me.


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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?

    Assalamualaykum,

    Jafar Hussain i gather from your post that you are

    a) a ****te

    b) you're name attempts to blend together various names from the ahle-bayt but why not add the rest, why not add Ali, Fatima, Hassan, or the rest of the ahle-bayt to that name, while you're at it why not add uthman and Umar too, oh why not abu bakr. you see they were all either father-in-laws or son-in-laws of the prophet and if that doesn't make you belong to his family (ahle-bayt) then i don't know what does.

    c) very poor when it comes to your English skills and that's why you wrote "Why Do I Love Muawiya?Please Tell Me." just after writing that you "hate" him. regardless i will interpret your statement to mean why do muslims, of the "pure" stock of course, love Muawiyah.

    keep in mid this is a layman's answer and is regarding mauwiyah (ra) and Uthman - not yazeed. Now for the crux of this post:

    you must be aware that...

    1) Mawiyah was a sahabi as AbdulWahhab said "God is pleased with them and they are pleased with god" (Suratul Bayyinah) the qur'an is an eternal book and thus Allah is eternally pleased with the sahabah (overall). sure the sahaba commited mistakes but they repented. have you not read books about them? these are the greatest people (non-prophet; unintended pun) to walk the surface of the earth, they would not sleep before asking their bro's forgiveness for any actions that they might have commited. furthermore, Abu Ayub Al'ANsari (with whom the prophet lived), a man the prophet loved very much, had no problem fighting for Mauwiyah when he sent him to constantinople.

    2) you must also be aware that Uthman married two of the prophet's daughters (do you hate someone who married two of his daughters?), and when they had died the prophet said that if he had anymore daughters (unmarried) he would have married them to Uthman.

    3) Also he was promised Jannah by rasoolullah before his death. on one occasion (cant remember the exact details) the great companion offerred to purchase a well for the muslims from the jews of madina. knowing that there was a high demand for water, the jews did what they do best, they raised the price ridiculously, yet Uthman still persevered and bought the well (fisabilillah) despite it's price. at this juncture the Rasool (saws) said that even if Uthman (ra) were never to do a single good deed again in his whole life, it would be impossible for him not to go to jannah. a bold statement don't you think? was the Rasool (saws) who was a "nabi" and therefore perfect like an "angel" incorrect when he made this claim (naudhubillah) or are you incorrect in hating a man for whom it is impossible to go to Jannah or wait ....have you been promised jannah too? otherwise you should keep quiet. if you are such a "pure" muslim, as you claim to be, you will have no difficulty in accepting the Rasool's statement as being the truth, knowingly refuting his statement will certainly set you apart from the "pure" muslims,

    anyways yes i'm being somewhat assertive but this is the first time i've heard shia openly claim before a sunni audience that he "hates" Uthman (the man who was protected by none other than hassan and hussein during his final hours), maybe you should just stick to your takiyyah and pretend to love him like the rest of your kind.


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    Default Re: Why Did Muawiya Attack Hazarat Ali(RA) ?

    on a side note yes you can dissaprove of the Umayyad dynasty, al lot of sunnis (most ulema do) yes the vast majority of them were not sahabah and a lot of them wreaked havoc on the Ahle-bayt. they were also quite racist regime in many respects. but do not denounce them as a whole for Umar ibn Abdul Aziz was an Umayyad and it is not possible to find any faults in him. or have the ****tes forgotten how well he treated all his subjects including the ahle-bayt.


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