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    I need a list of actions [Task] that are prohibited during khutba at Friday. Can anyone provide a book or point out with reference?



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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.



    The following list is taken from "Ta'leemul Haq":

    Things Not Allowed During The Khutbah

    - Talking.
    - Offering Sunnah and Nafl Salah.
    - Eating.
    - Drinking.
    - To reply to any talk.
    - Reciting the Qur'an etc.

    All those things which disturb the Khutbah become Makruh from the minute the Imam prepares to deliver the Khutbah.
    The following is taken from "Bahishti Zewar (Heavenly Ornaments)":

    Injuctions for Juma Sermon

    1 -- It is highly execrable to offer any prayer or talk when Khutba is being delivered. But offering postponed prayer is allowed and essential.
    2-- When the Khutba has begun it is essential for all present to listen it whether they are sitting near the Imam or at some distance. It his highly execrable to do anything which obstructs the hearing of Khutba. To eat, drink, talk, walk, greet, respond to greeting, to recite any prayer or to explain any religious problem during Khutba are all prohibited. It is, however, permissible for the deliverer of the Khutba to explain some religious problem during the Khutba.
    3-- If the Khutba begins while one is offering Sunna or Nafl prayer, then the Sunna should be completed and the Nafl should be concluded after two Raka'ats only.
    4-- It is highly execrable for the Imam or the followers to pray with raised hands during the sitting of the Imam between the two Khutbas but praying within oneself is permissible provided no words are spoken neither loudly nor in a low voice. To recite items of farewell or seperation in the Khutba of the last Friday of Ramadan is not reported from the Holy Prophet or his Companions.
    5-- It is permissible to read the Khutba from a book.
    6-- It is permissible for the listeners to recite Darood Sharif within themselves on hearing the holy names of the Prophet occurring in the Khutba.
    The following is an excerpt from a book with the name of "Sunnats":

    Sunnahs of Jumu'ah (Friday)

    S.8 One should listen attentively to the Khutbah even if one does not understand. One should not speak or even warn another to keep quiet while the Khutbah is in progress.

    S.9 When Nabi's name is mentioned in the Khutbah, it is ja'iz (permissible) to recite Durud in the heart only (without the movement of the lips or tounge).

    S.10 Between the two Khutbahs one can make Du'a. It is permissible to make Du'a without raising the hands or moving the lips (i.e. Du'a should be made in the heart only without the movement of the lips or the tounge).
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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    What about when the kateeb says the Prophet's (saw) name?


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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    Quote Originally Posted by faisal ahmad View Post
    What about when the kateeb says the Prophet's (saw) name?
    Read my post above.


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    Quote Originally Posted by faisal ahmad View Post
    What about when the kateeb says the Prophet's (saw) name?
    S.9 When Nabi's name is mentioned in the Khutbah, it is ja'iz (permissible) to recite Durud in the heart only (without the movement of the lips or tounge).
    Your Answer was in the post twice. May Allah grant us the correct understanding and grant us all hidayah.
    Have Respect For The Haramain

    Please Recite:

    Surah Yaseen (22)
    Surah Kahf On Fridays (15 Juz)
    Surah Dukhan On The Night Of Friday (25 Juz)
    Surah Tabarak/Mulk - Every Night (29 Juz)
    Surah Sajdah - Every Night (21 Juz)


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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    Quote Originally Posted by True Life View Post

    ...

    Things Not Allowed During The Khutbah
    - Offering Sunnah and Nafl Salah


    But Hadiths found in Bukhari & Muslim r showing totally opposite position what was mentioned above.


    Bukhari: Volume 2, Book 21, Number 267:
    Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah :

    While delivering a sermon, Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you comes while the Imam is delivering the sermon or has come out for it, he should offer a two Rakat prayer."


    MUSLIM
    Chapter 159 : OBSERVING OF TWO RAKIAHS AS A SALUTATION OF THE MOSQUE WHILE THE IMAM IS DELIVERING (THE SERMON)

    Muslim: Book 4, Number 1901:
    Jabir b. 'Abdullah said that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) delivered the sermon and said: When any one of you comes for the Friday (prayer) and the Imam comes out (from his apartment), (even then) should observe two rak'ahs (of prayer).

    Muslim: Book 4, Number 1903:
    Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: Sulaik Ghatafani came on Friday when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was delivering the sermon. He (Sulaik) sat down. He (the Holy Prophet) said to him: 0 Sulaik I stand and observe two rak'ahs and make them short, and then said: When any one of you comes on Friday, while the Imam delivers the sermon, he should observe two rak'ahs and should make them short.

    What to do when masala goes against Authentic hadiths?



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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    Quote Originally Posted by rqsnnt View Post

    What to do when masala goes against Authentic hadiths?
    When did layman have the ability to interpret Hadith ? Also who says every Hadeeth is taken as Dhaahir ?



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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImamGhazzaali View Post
    When did layman have the ability to interpret Hadith ? Also who says every Hadeeth is taken as Dhaahir ?



    Have u understood these hadith yet? Can plz tell us what is the meaning of these hadith?



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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    are there any other narrations in tirmidhi? nisai? ibn majah? muwatta? abu dawud?

    what does ibn hajr say about them in fathul bari? imam nawawi in sharh sahih muslim?


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    Default Re: List of actions [Task] are prohibited during Khutba at Friday.

    Quote Originally Posted by rqsnnt View Post


    But Hadiths found in Bukhari & Muslim r showing totally opposite position what was mentioned above.


    Bukhari: Volume 2, Book 21, Number 267:
    Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah :

    While delivering a sermon, Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you comes while the Imam is delivering the sermon or has come out for it, he should offer a two Rakat prayer."


    MUSLIM
    Chapter 159 : OBSERVING OF TWO RAKIAHS AS A SALUTATION OF THE MOSQUE WHILE THE IMAM IS DELIVERING (THE SERMON)

    Muslim: Book 4, Number 1901:
    Jabir b. 'Abdullah said that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) delivered the sermon and said: When any one of you comes for the Friday (prayer) and the Imam comes out (from his apartment), (even then) should observe two rak'ahs (of prayer).

    Muslim: Book 4, Number 1903:
    Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: Sulaik Ghatafani came on Friday when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was delivering the sermon. He (Sulaik) sat down. He (the Holy Prophet) said to him: 0 Sulaik I stand and observe two rak'ahs and make them short, and then said: When any one of you comes on Friday, while the Imam delivers the sermon, he should observe two rak'ahs and should make them short.

    What to do when masala goes against Authentic hadiths?



    مرقاة المفاتيح شرح مشكاة المصابيح (3 / 1046):
    1411 - (وَعَنْ جَابِرٍ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - وَهُوَ يَخْطُبُ) جُمْلَةٌ حَالِيَّةٌ، (إِذَا جَاءَ أَحَدُكُمْ يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ وَالْإِمَامُ يَخْطُبُ) أَيْ: يُرِيدُ أَوْ يَقْرُبُ أَنْ يَخْطُبَ، (فَلْيَرْكَعْ رَكْعَتَيْنِ، وَلِيَتَجَوَّزْ) بِكَسْرِ اللَّامِ وَيُسَكَّنُ، (فِيهِمَا) أَيْ: لِيُخَفِّفْ. قِيلَ: يَنْبَغِي أَنْ يَنْوِيَ سُنَّةَ الْجُمُعَةِ ; لِأَنَّ تَحِيَّةَ الْمَسْجِدِ تَحْصُلُ بِهَا بِخِلَافِ عَكْسِهِ.
    قَالَ الطِّيبِيُّ وَتَبِعَهُ ابْنُ الْمَلَكِ مَعَ مُخَالَفَتِهِ لِلْمَذْهَبِ: إِنَّ هَذَا يَدُلُّ عَلَى أَنَّ تَحِيَّةَ الْمَسْجِدِ مُسْتَحَبَّةٌ فِي أَثْنَاءِ الْخُطْبَةِ. (رَوَاهُ مُسْلِمٌ) .
    قَالَ مِيرَكُ: وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ، وَلِلْبُخَارِيِّ بِمَعْنَاهُ، وَلَمْ يَقُلْ: " وَلِيَتَجَوَّزْ فِيهِمَا ".
    قَالَ ابْنُ حَجَرٍ: وَفِي رِوَايَةِ مُسْلِمٍ: أَنْ سُلَيْكًا الْغَطَفَانِيَّ جَاءَ يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ وَالنَّبِيُّ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - يَخْطُبُ فَجَلَسَ ; فَقَالَ لَهُ: " سُلَيْكُ، قُمْ فَارْكَعْ رَكْعَتَيْنِ وَتَجَوَّزْ فِيهِمَا، ثُمَّ قَالَ: إِذَا جَاءَ أَحَدُكُمْ " إِلَخْ.
    قَالَ صَاحِبُ الْهِدَايَةِ: وَلِأَبِي حَنِيفَةَ قَوْلُهُ - عَلَيْهِ الصَّلَاةُ وَالسَّلَامُ - «إِذَا خَرَجَ الْإِمَامُ فَلَا صَلَاةَ وَلَا كَلَامَ» . قَالَ ابْنُ الْهُمَامِ: رَفْعُهُ غَرِيبٌ، وَالْمَعْرُوفُ كَوْنُهُ مِنْ كَلَامِ الزُّهْرِيِّ. رَوَاهُ مَالِكٌ فِي الْمُوَطَّأِ. قَالَ: خُرُوجُهُ يَقْطَعُ الصَّلَاةَ، وَكَلَامُهُ يَقْطَعُ الْكَلَامَ.
    وَأَخْرَجَ ابْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ فِي مُصَنَّفِهِ: عَنْ عَلَيٍّ وَابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ، كَانُوا يَكْرَهُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَالْكَلَامَ بَعْدَ خُرُوجِ الْإِمَامِ. وَأَخْرَجَ عَنْ عُرْوَةَ قَالَ: إِذَا قَعَدَ الْإِمَامُ عَلَى الْمِنْبَرِ فَلَا صَلَاةَ.
    وَعَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ قَالَ فِي الرَّجُلِ يَجِيءُ يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ وَالْإِمَامُ يَخْطُبُ: يَجْلِسُ وَلَا يُصَلِّي. وَالْحَاصِلُ أَنَّ قَوْلَ الصَّحَابِيِّ حُجَّةٌ فَيَجِبُ تَقْلِيدُهُ عِنْدَنَا إِذَا لَمْ يَنْفِهِ شَيْءٌ آخَرُ مِنَ السُّنَّةِ، وَمَا رَوَاهُ مُسْلِمٌ مِنْ قَوْلِهِ: إِذَا جَاءَ أَحَدُكُمْ إِلَخْ، لَا يَنْفِي كَوْنَ الْمُرَادِ أَنْ يَرْكَعَ مَعَ سُكُوتِ الْخَطِيبِ ; لِمَا ثَبَتَ فِي السُّنَّةِ مِنْ ذَلِكَ، أَوْ لَكَانَ قَبْلَ تَحْرِيمِ الصَّلَاةِ فِي حَالِ الْخُطْبَةِ انْتَهَى.
    وَقِيلَ: يُحْتَمَلُ أَنَّهُ أَمَرَهُ بِذَلِكَ لِيَتَصَدَّقَ عَلَيْهِ كَمَا جَاءَ فِي رِوَايَةٍ، وَقَدْ أَخْرَجَ أَحْمَدُ، وَابْنُ حِبَّانَ: أَنَّهُ - عَلَيْهِ الصَّلَاةُ وَالسَّلَامُ - كَرَّرَ أَمْرَهُ لَهُ بِالصَّلَاةِ ثَلَاثَ مَرَّاتٍ، فِي ثَلَاثِ جُمَعٍ، فَدَلَّ عَلَى أَنَّ الْقَصْدَ كَانَ التَّصَدُّقَ عَلَيْهِ، وَجَاءَ مِنْ طُرُقٍ أَنَّهُ حَصَلَ لَهُ فِي الْجُمُعَةِ الْأُولَى ثَوْبَيْنِ، فَدَخَلَ بِهِمَا فِي الثَّانِيَةِ فَتَصَدَّقَ بِأَحَدِهِمَا فِيهَا - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - وَأَمَرَهُ بِالصَّلَاةِ قَبْلَ أَنْ يَجْلِسَ انْتَهَى.
    فَيَكُونُ الْحُكْمُ مِنْ بَابِ التَّخْصِيصِ ; لِأَنَّ الْقَائِلِينَ بِالْمَنْعِ لَا يُجِيزُونَ ذَلِكَ لِعِلَّةِ التَّصَدُّقِ كَمَا صَرَّحُوا بِهِ.
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