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    Default Re: Hisham Kabbani on the Tablighi Jama'h!

    Quote Originally Posted by HaajiMahjubi View Post
    Salaam,

    Bro ENIGMA, I love you and you know I love the work and I think it is good. If anyone unjustly vilifies jamaat like this guy seekerikb, I'll tell it straight to his face that is an ignoramus.

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    If you think that pointing out the weakness of the present-day Tablig Jamat is equal to vilifying and belittling the Jamat , then may Allah give you better insight and command over English language !!

    I would like to see if someone can show any of my earlier comments where I have vilified TJ .

    Just have a look in my latest thread on TJ.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Tabligh-Jamat
    The real foundation of any Islamic movement is its spirituality. If the spiritual base gets
    corrupted, the whole movement will collapse sooner or later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeekerOfGuidance View Post


    Could you provide proof for your claims above, especially Hazrat Shaykh's statement (I'm assuming you're referring to Shaykh Zakariyyah ). There are some very prominent ulama who had already expressed concern many years ago regarding certain undesirable aspects that had started affecting this effort.
    The reference is a book which has been already discussed in this thread long ago.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...at-quot-online

    The book was compiled by Hadrat Sufi Muhammad Iqbal ( RAH ) and includes the sayings and/or letters of Hadrat Mawlana Muhammad Ilyas (RAH) and Shaykh al-Hadith Mawlana Muhammad Zakariyya ( RAH) on some important issues relating to Tabligh Jamat ( TJ ). The book reveals the tricks of Satan who has tried to weaken TJ in a cunning way.
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    You can download the Urdu version of the book from this link.

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/ijc9ub

    The English version of this book seems to be forbidden . Still , one brother has provided the scanned pages of the English version which are available in this link.

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/60e0bi
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    After reading the book you will understand what went wrong within Tablighi Jamat.
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    The credit I have achieved by posting such an important book from so-called TJ lovers and activists
    is really insulting !! Just go through the following thread and see their comments directed at me.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Sufi-shaykhs-!!
    The real foundation of any Islamic movement is its spirituality. If the spiritual base gets
    corrupted, the whole movement will collapse sooner or later.


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    Default Re: Hisham Kabbani on the Tablighi Jama'h!

    Quote Originally Posted by seeker_ikb View Post
    If you think that pointing out the weakness of the present-day Tablig Jamat is equal to vilifying and belittling the Jamat , then may Allah give you better insight and command over English language !!

    I would like to see if someone can show any of my earlier comments where I have vilified TJ .

    Just have a look in my latest thread on TJ.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Tabligh-Jamat
    Salaam,

    The thing is, who are you to point out the weaknesses of the jamaat? What qualifications do you have? What are the weaknesses of turuq? Do you point those out? What about different madaaris? Do you seek to point out all the flaws with them? What is your fixation with trying to prove that jamaat does not make one a wali of Allah? Are you a wali of Allah? I'm sure you pointing out the flaws of the jamaat doesn't speed you on your journey to qurb. What's your point? I just dont like haters and people who constantly want to expose other groups. Why don't you and others like you get a life, get married have kids, and do something that be beneficial to you in the long run rather than trying prove some point that no one cares about anyway.

    But I'll tell you again, if you don't stop talking in a low way about jamaat, you will regret it. Hopefully you will regret in this life so you can make amends.
    You should not hanker after excess in litanies but rather concentrate on occupying the heart with Allah’s remembrance and love. - Hadrat Aqdas Haaji Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (rah)


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    Default Re: Hisham Kabbani on the Tablighi Jama'h!

    Quote Originally Posted by seeker_ikb View Post
    The credit I have achieved by posting such an important book from so-called TJ lovers and activists is really insulting !! Just go through the following thread and see their comments directed at me.
    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Sufi-shaykhs-!!
    tsk tsk....and the Nobel prize for eating the flesh of Muslims goes to.......................
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    Default Re: Hisham Kabbani on the Tablighi Jama'h!

    ajeeb discussion he... are u ppl agains or in fever with tj's???


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    Default Re: Hisham Kabbani on the Tablighi Jama'h!

    ajeeb discussion he...

    Bahot zyaada.


    are u ppl agains or in fever with tj's???

    Seeker has fever and is against the TJ. Haaji is trying to adopt a balanced view. I favour the TJ.



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