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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman_Hanafi View Post
    what is the word in English for 'Gumaan'?
    To presume, to guess, to conjecture. Please do not consider the other possibilities for the time being.


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    JazakAllah all, I perfectly understand what gumaan means in Urdu, i do not have an english word for it....As a gift for those who have taken the time out to reply to my post I shall share something a buzurg usually says in his Majalis:

    " Jaisa Emaan hoga waisa gumaan hoga, aur waise hee aadmi ke sath muamla hoga, yeh Hadees mein aata hai, Iss liyay agar Emaan sahih hoga tu gumaan bhi acha hoga aur phir muamla bhi acha hoga"

    Maripat can you translate it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman_Hanafi View Post
    JazakAllah all, I perfectly understand what gumaan means in Urdu, i do not have an english word for it....As a gift for those who have taken the time out to reply to my post I shall share something a buzurg usually says in his Majalis:

    " Jaisa Emaan hoga waisa gumaan hoga, aur waise hee aadmi ke sath muamla hoga, yeh Hadees mein aata hai, Iss liyay agar Emaan sahih hoga tu gumaan bhi acha hoga aur phir muamla bhi acha hoga"

    Maripat can you translate it?
    No wonder I was puzzled by the question. Here is my miserable attempt at translation.

    As is your faith so will be your thought process and opinion and you shall conduct yourself accordingly, this is in the Traditions. Consequently if the faith is healthy the thought process and opinion and attitude too will be positive and then, Lord Willing, your dealings will be good, proper and appropriate.


    Needless to emphasize that I have focused on the content and not on the language.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maripat View Post
    No wonder I was puzzled by the question. Here is my miserable attempt at translation.

    As is your faith so will be your thought process and opinion and you shall conduct yourself accordingly, this is in the Traditions. Consequently if the faith is healthy the thought process and opinion and attitude too will be positive and then, Lord Willing, your dealings will be good, proper and appropriate.


    Needless to emphasize that I have focused on the content and not on the language.
    bless you, you completely missed the point due to the lack of clarity in my post. The Muamla I was taking about is the muamla Allah does with us in this world and the next, get it?...The meaning of a hadith is that Allah banday ke gumaan ke mutabiq hota hai. Now back to square one: Emaan ---> gumaan---Muamla.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman_Hanafi View Post
    bless you, you completely missed the point due to the lack of clarity in my post. The Muamla I was taking about is the muamla Allah does with us in this world and the next, get it?...The meaning of a hadith is that Allah banday ke gumaan ke mutabiq hota hai. Now back to square one: Emaan ---> gumaan---Muamla.
    Wallahi I did miss it. And I'll not try to elaborate on it because my intuition about this particular point is not in the category of Sharah-e-Sadr ( state of complete clarification).
    May be we should bother Shaikh Fusus, dr76 or london786.


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    Default Re: Urdu meaning

    Ok back to Urdu meaning then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman_Hanafi View Post
    " Jaisa Emaan hoga waisa gumaan hoga, aur waise hee aadmi ke sath muamla hoga, yeh Hadees mein aata hai, Iss liyay agar Emaan sahih hoga tu gumaan bhi acha hoga aur phir muamla bhi acha hoga"
    What you think of God accordingly will be His dealings with you. This is in Tradition. So if one's faith is correct then his expectations from God will be positive and, God Willing, God's dealings with him will be felicitous.


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    Default Re: Urdu meaning

    JazakAllah


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman_Hanafi View Post
    JazakAllah
    Wa 'Alaikum.
    It was learning experience - real life occurrence of those events that our Elders keep us warning about.


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    Default Re: Urdu meaning

    Zahir ki ankh se na tamasha kare koi,
    Ho dekhna to deeda-e-dil wah kare koi,
    Parh bethay kiya samajh ker bhala toor per kaleem
    Takkat ho deed ki to taqaza kare koi

    meaning???
    "Kash ! Main ek darakht hota jise kaat diya jata.(Ibne majah)".[abu dharr(Radhiyallahu anhu)]


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