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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slave_of_ Allah View Post
    As-Salamu-Alaykum brother,

    How does one go about doing that? Do I give it to someone?

    On the one hand, I am scared that if there is any shirk/kufr involved, then I shouldn't keep it in the house (and this frame is kept next to the Holy Qur'an).

    On the other hand, I am scared that if I have misunderstood something, and there is no kufr/shirk involved, but that it only talks about tawassul, then by not keeping it, I might have caused disrespect to Islamic literature.

    I am quite confused.

    Wassalamu Alaykum.


    If you are not sure about their nature, it's best to be cautious and remove them from the home. The advisable method of doing so is to bury or place them in a river. Some Muslim graveyards will allow you to use their land to bury them.
    "Whoever acts upon what he knows, Almighty Allah bestows upon him
    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julaybib View Post
    Salaam's.

    Some extreme Barelvis practice this and I have been informed there is also a salatul hajah that is prayed too Imam Ahmed Radha Khan.


    Salaat-e-Ghawthiyya is mentioned in Ahmad Raza's books. I think I posted a thread about it in the past but I can't find it anymore.
    "Whoever acts upon what he knows, Almighty Allah bestows upon him
    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ali al-Hanafi View Post


    Salaat-e-Ghawthiyya is mentioned in Ahmad Raza's books. I think I posted a thread about it in the past but I can't find it anymore.
    Yes. In India, no one besides the Barelwis offers this kind of prayers.
    Mujhse bekas ki dawlat pe laakhon durood, Mujhse bebas ki quwwat pe laakhon salaam,
    Hum ghareebon ke aaqa pe behad durood, Hum faqeeron ki sarwat pe laakhon salaam.


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slave_of_ Allah View Post
    As-Salamu-Alaykum,

    Does anyone have any advice on this subject? Should I be worried about the frame? What should I do with the book(s) mentioned in question (1)?

    Wassalamu Alaykum.
    You can go to
    http://www.darulifta-deoband.org/
    or
    http://askimam.org/

    to ask for a fatwa from the knowledgeable muftis there.

    Usually I get a faster response from darulifta deoband.


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Theres also a Durood-e-Ghausiya which is also full of shirk.

    When I was first given that leaflet I did a search to see if its a popular Barelvi thing but didnt find anything on that exactly. However I did find a thread on Ya Nabi forum where they were asking for advice on how to exactly perform this 'salat' e ghausiyah. One on the questions a user asked was where is Iraq from the Qibla direction! SubhanAllah, how the devil deceives these people. There beliefs and practices are full of shirk upon shirk.


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by -Hussain- View Post
    Theres also a Durood-e-Ghausiya which is also full of shirk.

    When I was first given that leaflet I did a search to see if its a popular Barelvi thing but didnt find anything on that exactly. However I did find a thread on Ya Nabi forum where they were asking for advice on how to exactly perform this 'salat' e ghausiyah. One on the questions a user asked was where is Iraq from the Qibla direction! SubhanAllah, how the devil deceives these people. There beliefs and practices are full of shirk upon shirk.
    That's true. They pray in the direction of Baghdad.

    Mujhse bekas ki dawlat pe laakhon durood, Mujhse bebas ki quwwat pe laakhon salaam,
    Hum ghareebon ke aaqa pe behad durood, Hum faqeeron ki sarwat pe laakhon salaam.


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Ahmad Raza Khan said, “If someone is in the land of the disbelievers residing in a village, for example if there are only hindus there and this person is unable to leave the place for some reason. So then tell us if a situation arises then who will he immediately ask (ie ask for a fatwa)? Then it will be said to him, “Ask the Pandit (a Pandit is a hindu priest).” (Fataawa Rizwiyyah 3/253)

    “Making idols for the purpose of being worshipped is not disbelief (Kufr).” (Fatawa Maulana Fadl Rasool Badayuni pg.14, Mufeed Khalaa’iq Press Shahjahanabad 1228H).
    Mujhse bekas ki dawlat pe laakhon durood, Mujhse bebas ki quwwat pe laakhon salaam,
    Hum ghareebon ke aaqa pe behad durood, Hum faqeeron ki sarwat pe laakhon salaam.


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
    “Making idols for the purpose of being worshipped is not disbelief (Kufr).” (Fatawa Maulana Fadl Rasool Badayuni pg.14, Mufeed Khalaa’iq Press Shahjahanabad 1228H).[/COLOR][/FONT]


    Badayuni was not a Barelwi as such, more of an associate of Ahmad Raza. If I remember correctly from Mutala-e-Barelwiat, he held the same view as Ahmad Raza regarding the British Raj over India at the time and even had a couple of altercations with this friend of his. Will have to double check though.
    "Whoever acts upon what he knows, Almighty Allah bestows upon him
    the knowledge of things not known to him"
    (Fazaa'il-e-A'maal, Virtues of the Holy Qur'an, Part 1, under Hadith 8)


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    Default Re: Lessons in Shirk: The Salah al Ghauthiyya!

    Quote Originally Posted by bint_azam View Post
    How about this one called - Dua Joushan Kabeer

    Someone was trying to fool us into reading this on laylatul qadr, and we found out it is a shia dua.

    Does anyone know clear cut if there's any shirk in it, or just bida't?
    Salam Aleykum Sister,

    Let me show you how the Shia spend Laylatul-Qadr:
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    إن كان حب آل البيت رفضا فليشهد الثقلان إني رافضي


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    Quote Originally Posted by TripolySunni View Post
    Salam Aleykum Sister,

    Let me show you how the Shia spend Laylatul-Qadr:
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    Can u tell what shias think by doing that act


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