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    Hi,

    I was involved in a discussion recently and would like to ask a few questions hoping someone can assist?

    Do "Wahabbis" commit anthropomorphism to Allah? What do they say? If possible a source or reference to their belief regarding this.

    Do they realy hate the companions RA of the prophet SAW like the Shiahs?
    Do they realy not love the prophet SAW?

    Once again if possible a source or reference to their belief regarding this.

    JazakAllah Khair.


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    Default Re: Questions about Wahabi's?

    Quote Originally Posted by silentflute View Post
    Hi,

    I was involved in a discussion recently and would like to ask a few questions hoping someone can assist?

    Do "Wahabbis" commit anthropomorphism to Allah? What do they say? If possible a source or reference to their belief regarding this.

    Do they realy hate the companions RA of the prophet SAW like the Shiahs?
    Do they realy not love the prophet SAW?

    Once again if possible a source or reference to their belief regarding this.

    JazakAllah Khair.

    I don't really know that much about Wahabis, but they definetely DON'T hate the companions of the Prophet (); in fact, they call themselves "salafis" for that reason...
    May Allah keep us sane in this silly world!


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentflute View Post
    Hi,

    I was involved in a discussion recently and would like to ask a few questions hoping someone can assist?

    Do "Wahabbis" commit anthropomorphism to Allah? What do they say? If possible a source or reference to their belief regarding this.


    This is the source of the big debate between Salafis and non-Salafis, and so I can't really give an answer either way, except that there are Salafis who are not anthropomorphists, and there are Salafis that are. As for the beliefs of their scholars, I can't say.

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    Do they realy hate the companions RA of the prophet SAW like the Shiahs?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by silentflute View Post
    Do they realy not love the prophet SAW?
    No


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    Quote Originally Posted by sohail.amaan View Post
    What is that man? A presentation to explain to people who the Wahhabis are?! I find it a bit excessive. Hitler also made such presentations about the Jews.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethawri View Post
    What is that man? A presentation to explain to people who the Wahhabis are?! I find it a bit excessive. Hitler also made such presentations about the Jews.
    So that one is not authentic ??


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    Wahabis!


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    Default Re: Questions about Wahabi's?

    I wanna know once and for all..

    What is the problem with Wahhabis? Whats so 'wrong' about them? Cos i know most Asians just hate them and attribute stuff to them which they dont actually do.

    Also let me just point out, that there is a difference between Salafis and people who say they are Salafis. The true Salafis are good people because they follow the Salaf - these true salafis basically include all the good scholars out there (Arifi etc.). Theres one easy way to knowing someone is a true Salafi, and that is that they never actually call themself a Salafi because that is arrogant and arrogance is obviously not the way of the Salaf. So when you want to talk bad about Salafis remember that by doing this you are talking bad about good people, and if you meant to be talking about those extreme and excessive people (not gonna name any) who go around and declare themselves as 'Salafeeeeeeee' then dont call them Salafi and call them something else.
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    I'm Asian, Indonesia to be exact.

    I can understand why most Asian don't really like Wahabi. When I talk about Wahabi, then it means Wahabi in Indonesia. The condition in other country might differ from where I live.

    In Indonesia we usually go to the grave of our Ulamas and make du'a there. Not because the Ulama in the grave can do anything to the du'a. But we hope because of the love to the Ulama will make the du'a will be more easily accepted by Allah. Other thing we do is celebrating Maulid of Sayyidi Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam. In some villages, the celebration is so huge and can be compared to Idul Fitri and Idul Adha. And there is a tahlil: Tahlil is a recitation of some surah in Koran and zikr that we do in a group, in niat we ask Allah give the pahala to our parents in the grave or to the parents (in the grave) of the one who invite us to do tahlil.

    The Wahabi will come and accused us of doing Syirkh, because we make du'a while visiting the grave of our Ulamas. Regarding Maulid, Wahabi will easily say bid'ah here, bid'ah there, to the other majority Muslims. And they really hate tahlil.

    On some occasion I've bought a book "Adabul Mufrad" of Imam Bukhari rahmatullahi alahi from a Wahabi book store, and he suggest me to buy "Sahih Adabul Mufrad" of Syaikh Al-Albani. In the end he gave me the Adabul Mufrad of Imam Bukhari, but this book is so differ. There's a lot of footnote where Syaikh Al-Albani give comments as if the hadits is not correct if the Syaikh was not saying anything about it. After some researching I've found most of book translation in Indonesia, was translated from books published from Saudi publishers. Our Ulamas has give notice not to pick books from Saudi publishers, because there's a lot of evidence of missing chapters or pages from these publishers. Especially the chapter about tawassul in many books. I'm not memorize this books, so I follow our Ulama.

    Most Wahabi don't even want to be called Wahabi. They say they are Salafi, but because of much critics from our Ulama, now they don't want to be called Salafi in Indonesia, but they want to be called Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah. The same name of the dominant muslims group in Indonesia. I wonder how many times they will change their names in the future.

    in the end, I might be wrong. because I'm just a layman. Afwan.


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