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    What are the pros and cons of living in a western country (like America) versus living in a Muslim country (like Qatar or UAE)?
    "Dreams feel real when we're in them. It's only when we wake up do we realize something was actually strange"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Assalaam alikum

    What are the pros and cons of living in a western country (like America) versus living in a Muslim country (like Qatar or UAE)?
    wswrwb -

    cons:
    -difficult to find halal work/work environment
    -difficult to raise family
    -difficult to lower gaze
    -may not be halal to live in non-Muslim country (varying opinions)
    -what will we tell Allah when he asks us why we lived among the kuffar when we could have gone somewhere else?
    -what we tell Allah when our kids end up astray?

    pros:
    -political stability
    -the laws of the kuffar actually protect your rights better than the laws in some Muslim majority countries
    -for second-generation, you might have a better chance in the non-Muslim countries because you know how to function there since you grew up in that environment, whereas relocating to Muslim country, you will be a foreigner there and have to start from the bottom, and when you are struggling like that it will be hard to practice deen or help your family...


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    Assalaam alikum

    What are the pros and cons of living in a western country (like America) versus living in a Muslim country (like Qatar or UAE)?


    Just to let you know, you can't actually become a citizen in most of the Gulf nations such as Qatar or the UAE. They give their native citizens considerable benefits, and as such, do not allow foreigners to become citizens except with the explicit permission of the royal families--which usually involves wedding a citizen (which you really do not want to do--Gulf women require MONEYZ!!! )

    My advice, if you're seeking to do such a thing, is to move to Turkey. The country is quickly becoming an economic powerhouse (which means you'll be highly appreciated as a western educated individual), and the country and people are very nice. Istanbul is simply amazing.


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    If you can't fight em, join em. They'll protect you.
    پڑھ پڑھ عالم فاضل ہویا کدے اپنے آپ نوں پڑھیا نہیں
    جا جا وَڑدا مندرمسیتی کدی نفس اپنے وچ وَڑیا ای نہیں

    لڑدا ایں روز شیطان نال کدی نفس اپڑے نال توں لڑیا ای نہیں
    بلھے شاہ اسمانی اُڈدیاں پھَڑدا ایں جہڑا گھر بیٹھا اونوں پھڑیا ای نہیں

    بُھلےؔ شاہؔ


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    Default Re: Living in America vs living in a Muslim country

    Perhaps rather than considering the UAE or Qatar, you should consider nations like Indonesia, Malaysia, or, perhaps as a more distant choice, Turkey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ibn Mikael View Post


    Just to let you know, you can't actually become a citizen in most of the Gulf nations such as Qatar or the UAE. They give their native citizens considerable benefits, and as such, do not allow foreigners to become citizens except with the explicit permission of the royal families--which usually involves wedding a citizen (which you really do not want to do--Gulf women require MONEYZ!!! )

    My advice, if you're seeking to do such a thing, is to move to Turkey. The country is quickly becoming an economic powerhouse (which means you'll be highly appreciated as a western educated individual), and the country and people are very nice. Istanbul is simply amazing.
    Regarding Turkey , you should not be too much optimistic , if you are a practicing Muslim brother keeping beard. I mean, in Turkey many companies are owned by secular elite who do not allow the employees to keep beard. However, if you start your own business there , or find companies owned by religious minded people , then you may have a good chance to do work without shaving your beard.


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    Assalaam alikum

    What are the pros and cons of living in a western country (like America) versus living in a Muslim country (like Qatar or UAE)?
    Avoid middle east. A big war might engulf the whole region. Better go to South Africa. Many forum members are from south africa here. Ask them.

    For the middle east war , check this article below.

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    The Destabilization of Syria and the Broader Middle East War

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=25312

    Dangerous Crossroads: The Broader Middle East War

    Israel and NATO signed a far-reaching military cooperation agreement in 2005. Under this agreement, Israel is considered a de facto member of NATO.

    If a military operation were to be launched against Syria, Israel would in all likelihood be involved in military undertakings alongside NATO forces (under the NATO-Israel bilateral agreement). Turkey would also play an active military role.

    A military intervention in Syria on fake humanitarian grounds would lead to an escalation of the US-NATO led war over a large area extending from North Africa and the Middle East to Central Asia, from the Eastern Mediterranean to China's Western frontier with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    It would also contribute to a process of political destabilization in Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine. It would also set the stage for a conflict with Iran.

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    I'm considering staying in America, but moving to California
    "Dreams feel real when we're in them. It's only when we wake up do we realize something was actually strange"


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    i read elsewhere on sunniforum that they were building a gated Muslim community in Hayword, CA at the old site of Zaytuna Institute, maybe you could check it out and let us know how it is developing...

    also, read these...

    http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-stud...-abul-hussein/

    http://www.suhaibwebb.com/society/in...at-our-people/


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    Default Re: Living in America vs living in a Muslim country

    Reading that second article, I've decided to stay in America
    "Dreams feel real when we're in them. It's only when we wake up do we realize something was actually strange"


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