Blatant Racism of Indian/Pakistanees!

[Colonel_Hardstone]

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[True Life]

Racism is definitely a problem and is not to be underestimated. Pakistanis are even divided amongst themselves (Pathan, Muhajir, Punjabi etc.) and literally willing to murder neighbours of different race. Amongst my own relatives I can sense baseless prejudices against Pathan & Punjabis. I heard Haaji Abdul Wahhab sahab [HA] say on many occasions: "Whoever calls himself Pathan, Muhajir, Balochi or Punjabi has degraded himself. Because his real indentity is that of Rasulullah 's Ummati." Teachings like the following need to be promoted (I never heard the Hadith before):

This is what happened when a person was prejudiced towards a language (whether it be Urdu, Arabic or otherwise) as explained to us by Maulana Sa'd in Nizamuddin Markaz.

The Incident Between Ibn Mataatiyyah and Hadhrat Mu'aadh Radhiyallah 'anhu and the Lecture that Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam Delivered in this Regard


Hadhrat Abu Salamah bin Abdur Rahmaan reports that Qais bin Mataatiyyah once came to a gathering that included Hadhrat Salmaan Faarsi, Hadhrat Suhayb Roomi and Hadhrat Bilaal Habshi Radhiyallahu 'anhum He remarked, "Here (in the gathering) are the Aws and Khazraj tribes who have stood up to assist that man (Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) (this I can understand because they are Arab and people of standing). However, what is the matter with these other people (these poor non-Arabs who have no social standing? Of what use are they)?"

Hadhrat Mu'aadh Radhiyallahu 'anhu stood up and and grabbing Ibn Mataatiyyah by the collar, brought him to Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam. When Hadhrat Mu'aadh reported the statement, Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam stood up in anger and pulling his shawl along, he entered the Masjid. The announcement "Gather for Salaah" was made (to assemble the people) and after duly praising Allaah, Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam said, "O people! Verily your Rabb is but One Rabb, your father (Aadam 'Alayhis salaam) is but one father and your Deen is but one Deen. Take note that Arabic is neither your father nor your mother. It is merely a language and whoever speaks Arabic is therefore Arab."

Still holding on to the collar of Ibn Mataatiyyah, Hadhrat Mu'aadh Radhiyallah 'anhu asked, "O Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam! What is your instruction concerning this Munaafiq?" "Leave him to the Fire of Jahannam!" replied Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam. Ibn Mataatiyyah was therefore amongst those who left the fold of Islaam was killed in this condition.

(Ibn Asaakir, as quoted in Kanzul Ummal (Vol.7 pg.46) Excerpt from Hayatus Sahabah 2nd Vol.)

[Aram]

I have not personally witnessed racism within Islamic institutes between Asians. Outside of Islamic institutes i have seen a lot of racism, mainly from the elders

What i have noticed in Islamic institutes those that are in the hands of Asians is they seem to think there only exist arab and asian muslims

they often use the words "gorey" (whites) and "kaley" (blacks) as a synonym for kafir

I have heard things like

"if you don't give your daughters good tarbiyyah they will run of with a gora or a kala"

those sorts of comments are made by those who are considered knowledgeable and islamic leaders within society

[Aram]

Even if it was Hadhrat Bilal RA himself most of the Asians will still refuse

[*Bubbles*]

I've come across some snobbish Indians and Pakistanis who look down upon Bengalis, South Indians , Sri Lankans etc and make fun of their accents, their skin colour etc. The worst part is they think they're doing something natural, because no body dares to question them or reprimand them.

It's disgusting . It makes me wonder : Is it a crime to be born in a place which others don't like ? Do looks really matter that much ? Why is there so much discrimination amongst us, Muslims - the best Ummah ? I feel helpless at this mindless prejudice that goes on because these people who get discriminated against develop an inferiority complex and feel that they are worth nothing.

I don't know how we can help the older generation, but we can atleast teach our younger generation to respect & love every person , regardless of his/her nationality or skin colour. Encourage them to be friends with people of all races. Parents should avoid addressing people from other countries usiig derog terms in front of their children. Children imitate what parents do...so, if parents rectify their behaviout then InshaAllah, there will be some hope for the future generations to grow up as tolerant individulas.

[Aram]

I don't know how we can help the older generation

well firstly i don't see the ulemah paying too much attention to racist behaviour amongst the Asians, they could if they wanted have a big impact if they were to teach the elder generations why racism is wrong

secondly, if i was to approach an Aapa or a shaykh because in his/her bayaan they used the word gora or kala to mean kafir or something else which came across as a racist comment...all their students would probably jump me apparently its rude and disrespectful to disagree with an aalim or aalimah

[qibla]

Assalaamoalaykum-w-w
The periodical of our town talked about this issue and there was a huge uproar from those who misinterpret hadith and Quran to justify seperation. Hell, Masjids and institutes are built on this discriminations. Colonel you say dont get emotional. How can you not?
This is a bitter issue very close to my heart. It wreaks of such pungent filth especially when the "bastards" openly display their...... that it is impossible for you to ignore. The sun shines from... and they think.... they ice cream!!!!! Sorry!!
In Africa it the worst problem!! and we are baffled about how to get out this deep.....!!!!
and more importantly the Shks ignore this in the Juma Bayaans!! Hypocrytes!!!

[mospike]

Assalaamoalaykum-w-w
The periodical of our town talked about this issue and there was a huge uproar from those who misinterpret hadith and Quran to justify seperation. Hell, Masjids and institutes are built on this discriminations. Colonel you say dont get emotional. How can you not?
This is a bitter issue very close to my heart. It wreaks of such pungent filth especially when the "bastards" openly display their...... that it is impossible for you to ignore. The sun shines from... and they think.... they ice cream!!!!! Sorry!!
In Africa it the worst problem!! and we are baffled about how to get out this deep.....!!!!
and more importantly the Shks ignore this in the Juma Bayaans!! Hypocrytes!!!

I feel you bro

You can’t begin to imagine how the blatant racism witnessed in Makka Mukarrama and Madinatul Munawarra by Arabs towards non arabs and then Indians and Pakistanis towards others has bothered me. It totally spoilt much of the feelings that i experienced whilst on Umrah. I am soooo frustrated and i can’t figure out a way to stop feeling like this.

This issue is rotting the Ummah from within!!!

[AbdulQadir90]

Assalamualaykum. It is, without any doubt, rasism\discrimination within the south Asian communities. Particullary amongst our elders. This is a serious problem which needs to be taken care of with hikmah and good manners. I even remember some Masheikh in Tabligh "talking about high cast people" and I was very dissapointed because those elders had given their life for the purpose of Dawaa and their beards have become white while they were working with Tabligh and still they have takabbur in their hearts. I guess everybody can make some mistakes, even the Akabireen, but my point is to make it clear that we have to combat the rasism and cast-problematics(particullary the young generation have a responsibility). Remember that it is not any space for proudness in Islam based on casts and skin color.

WaAllahualam

[Aram]

is the tablighi jamat accommodating to non Asians?