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    Default Re: Ghair Muqallids?

    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post



    if not, then what do you do to make them see their error?id like to help them rather than bash them
    May be they have turned into "Ghair Muqalid Hanafis"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.ati View Post
    May be they have turned into "Ghair Muqalid Hanafis"
    well what can i do about them?what does the shariah say for those who mix maslaks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post
    well what can i do about them?what does the shariah say for those who mix maslaks?
    I think Maulana Abu Hajira will be the best person to shed some light on this issue.
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    Assalamu alaykum

    Shaykh Ibn Tamiyyah RA, the famous jurist, says in his 'Fatawa':


    "Some people follow at one time an imam who holds the marriage invalid, and at another time they follow a jurist who holds it valid. They do so only to serve their individual purpose and satisfy their desires. Such a practice is impermissible according to the consensus of all the imams."

    He further elaborates the point by several examples when he says:

    "For example if a person wants to pre-empt a sale he adopts the view of those who give the right of pre-emption to a contingent neighbour, but if they are the seller of a property, they refuse to accept the right of pre-emption for the neighbour of the seller (on the basis of Shafi'i view) . . . and if the relevant person claims that he did not know before (that Imam Shafi'i does not give the right of pre-emption to the neighbour) and has come to know it only then, and he wants to follow that view as from today, he will not be allowed to do so, because such a practice opens the door for playing with the rules of Shari'ah, and paves the path for deciding the halal and haram in accordance with one's desires."
    (Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah Syrian ed. 2:285,286)
    میرے مالک یہ احمد کی سن لے دعا
    ہو مقدر میں ہر سال دید حرم
    یا جبال الحرم یا جبال الحرم


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    Default Re: Ghair Muqallids?

    taqlid means to follow an oppinion without knowing the proof. some hanafis are muqalid, some arent. some salafis are muqalid, some arent. only the serious scholars on both sides are mujtahids who derive ruling directly from the qur'an and sunnah. in general, salafis know the proofs for their oppinions more than hanafis although hanafis are now countering this more and learning the proof for their madhab in books such as fiqh al imam. wallahu a'lam
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    Assalamu alaykum

    taqlid means to follow an oppinion without knowing the proof. some hanafis are muqalid, some arent. some salafis are muqalid, some arent. only the serious scholars on both sides are mujtahids who derive ruling directly from the qur'an and sunnah. in general, salafis know the proofs for their oppinions more than hanafis although hanafis are now countering this more and learning the proof for their madhab in books such as fiqh al imam. wallahu a'lam
    in general, salafis know the proofs for their oppinions more than hanafis although hanafis
    Can any salafi member honestly tell us how many opinions have they derived till now with proofs?. 10 or 20 or 100.

    We hanafees have received atleast 12,90,000 masail from Imam Abu Haneefa, and without proofs.
    میرے مالک یہ احمد کی سن لے دعا
    ہو مقدر میں ہر سال دید حرم
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    Default Re: Ghair Muqallids?

    the whole point of this thread is that salafi members dont derive any rulings. they follow their scholars, however they look at the evidences of their scholar so it isnt considered taqleed its consdered ittiba. many hanafis also do this and can tell you the proof of their madhab for many issues
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    Assalamu alaykum

    however they look at the evidences of their scholar
    OK, how many evidences did they look at till now?
    میرے مالک یہ احمد کی سن لے دعا
    ہو مقدر میں ہر سال دید حرم
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    Default Re: Ghair Muqallids?

    bro, that would obviously differ form person to person. for example if one studies ummdatul ahkaam then he has looked at quite a large number of hadeeths and their derived rulings. however if one is a layman who reads a few online articles then probabily they know a few proofs for rafa al yadain, 8 rak'ah etc
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    Default Re: Ghair Muqallids?

    look atthis book by shaikh ibn baz for an example of how fiqh is taught with evidences from a scholar:

    http://thedeenshow.com/newmuslims.php?id=46
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