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    Default Non Muslim + good deeds = jannah ????

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    I have this frnd of mines who keeps asking will mother Tessa go to heaven , he is a Muslim far frm Islam ,

    Well so what mother Teresa did so many good deeds why wud she not go to jannah ?

    I replied say g if she accepted Allah and his messenger she will but if she did not then noway.

    In support I used surah Muhammad verse 1

    Those who reject Allah and his messenger their deeds will be fruitless ........

    This friend of mine doesn't undrstNd and keeps arguing
    I would like more detail answer in lit of Quran and Hadith
    Jazakallah khair
    Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim ALLAHUMMA SALLI ALA MUHAMMADIN ABDIKA WA RASOOLIKA WA SALLI ALAL MU'MINEENA WAL MU'MINAATI WAL MUSLIMEENA WAL MUSLIMAATI


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    Quote Originally Posted by brother19791 View Post
    Well so what mother Teresa did so many good deeds why wud she not go to jannah ?


    Allah says that the one who rejects the Belief destroys his deeds himself,
    ََمَن يَكفُر بِالإِيمَانِ فَقَد حَبِطَ عَمَلُهُ (المآئِدَه 5)
    (If any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work). (5: 5)
    On another place, Allah says the same thing about those who reject His verses or the Last Day,
    وَالَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِِئَايَاتِنَا وَلِقَآءِ الأَخِرَةِ حَبِطَت أَعمَالُهُم ۚ (الاعراف 147)
    (Those who reject our verses and the Meeting in the Hereafter-vain are their deeds). (7: 147)


    Iman(believing in Allah and prophet as last prophet) = 1

    Good deeds = 0

    So if a Muslim got Iman His value is = 1 and If he does 100 good deeds then it makes = 1000

    A muslim with good deeds got 1000 point.

    Now a non muslim did 100 good deeds so for him 000. But because he didnt had Iman which is 1, all his 000 got no value.

    On a check you can put 0000000 , it got no value infront of cashier. but just put a 1 infront of it, you are millionier.

    If you got only 1 on the check, you are more rich than the person who got 000000 on his check.

    Allah gives the reward of Non muslim the good he did, in this world. For non muslim there is nothing after their death. Mother teresa got her reward in this world.
    The Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said: "Allaah does not deal unjustly with a believer about a good deed as he is given blessings for it in this world and is rewarded for it in the Hereafter; but the disbeliever is given in this life the reward for good deeds he has performed, and when he comes to the Hereafter, there is no good deed for which he can be rewarded." [Muslim].
    What does reward mean? money-car-building? No, Allah saved the person from a lot of bad thing which Allah wanted to give, but cause of the good deeds, Allah moved those away and rewarded him by leaving out the bad things which was supposed to happen with him.

    If a person dies following a religion other than Islam, then Paradise will be forbidden for him, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode” [al-Maa’idah 5:72]

    Good deeds done by a person whilst he is a kaafir will not benefit him in the Hereafter at all, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

    “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

    “And We shall turn to whatever deeds they (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners) did, and We shall make such deeds as scattered floating particles of dust” [al-Furqaan 25:23]

    “Those who deny Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and the Meeting in the Hereafter (Day of Resurrection,), vain are their deeds. Are they requited with anything except what they used to do?” [al-A’raaf 7:147]

    ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) a question similar to that asked here. She (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “O Messenger of Allaah, during the Jaahiliyyah Ibn Jud’aan used to uphold the ties of kinship and feed the poor. Will that be of any avail to him?” He said, “No, that will not be of any avail to him, because he never said ‘O Lord, forgive me my sins on the Day of Judgement.’” (Narrated by Imaam Muslim – may Allaah have mercy on him) in his Saheeh, 214).
    Last edited by abulayl; 07-08-2011 at 02:18 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brother19791 View Post
    Swb

    I have this frnd of mines who keeps asking will mother Tessa go to heaven , he is a Muslim far frm Islam ,

    Well so what mother Teresa did so many good deeds why wud she not go to jannah ?

    I replied say g if she accepted Allah and his messenger she will but if she did not then noway.

    In support I used surah Muhammad verse 1

    Those who reject Allah and his messenger their deeds will be fruitless ........

    This friend of mine doesn't undrstNd and keeps arguing
    I would like more detail answer in lit of Quran and Hadith
    Jazakallah khair


    i think your answer is right there in your post.

    if your friend has not submitted to Allah then how will he accept the commands of Allah in the quran?

    concentrate on making him aware of Allah's greatness and by making him ponder upon the creation of Allah. spend some time with him in tabligh jamaat even for a few days. inshallah he will soon realise how insignificant he is and how great Allah is. once he submits himself to Allah's greatness, power and wisdom then inshallah he will accept the words and wisdom of Allah without questioning why.

    there are many things in the quran and hadith that us mere mortals dont understand and sometimes will never understand. ours is not to question why. our duty is to submit ourselves to Allah and accept everything that comes from Allah whether we understand it or not.

    Allah through his infinite wisdom has deemed that all who die upon rejecting Allah and the path after it is shown to them (may Allah save us) will abide in hell for eternity and this is the best way as deemed by Allah.

    work on his iman and love for Allah, His Rasool , and islam and inshallah he himself will come around.


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    Jazakallah khair fr ur reply bro Abu lay

    Also is it not true frm my limited knowledge anyone in today's world says la ilaha illallah but rejects muhammad ur rasulullah he too shall enter the he'llfire?
    Meaning if a person says I believe in one God free from partners / sons etc but I reject Muhammad saws as his messenger he too enters hellfire ?

    I would like bro n Sis to quote from Quran and hadith and reply to both of my posts so that I may share it with my friend.

    Thank you for ur valuable time
    May Allah reward u all
    Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim ALLAHUMMA SALLI ALA MUHAMMADIN ABDIKA WA RASOOLIKA WA SALLI ALAL MU'MINEENA WAL MU'MINAATI WAL MUSLIMEENA WAL MUSLIMAATI


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    I don't have the time to do it myself, but maybe someone can post the incident of Sayyidina 'Umar al-Farooq and the monk, who exhausted himself in worship. The tafseer of the verse that Sayyidina 'Umar recited on that ocassion might also be helpful in clearing any misunderstandings - insha'Allah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brother19791 View Post
    Meaning if a person says I believe in one God free from partners / sons etc but I reject Muhammad saws as his messenger he too enters hellfire ?
    yes, who doesnt beleive in prophet as last prophet he enters in hellfire.

    "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

    PS: I edited my first post too, check that again inshallah for more references.


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    Few points:
    - who has been nicer to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) than his uncle Abu Talib? He has been by his side all through his life, but did not accept Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) tells us that his uncle would be among the residents of jahannam. This clarifies that good deed alone is not sufficient for eternal salvation; they bring goodness in this world for the person, but does not leave anything for the hereafter - which is indeed the true life.

    - if a person believes in Allaah, then he must also believe in the Qur'an, and the Qur'an tells us of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and asks us to follow him. So if a person accepts Allaah, but does not accept Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), then they are basically rejecting Allaah's book and his commands; this is kufr/rejection, and thus the person does not remain Muslim.

    Wallaahu A'lam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brother19791 View Post
    Jazakallah khair fr ur reply bro Abu lay


    Also is it not true frm my limited knowledge anyone in today's world says la ilaha illallah but rejects muhammad ur rasulullah he too shall enter the he'llfire?
    Meaning if a person says I believe in one God free from partners / sons etc but I reject Muhammad saws as his messenger he too enters hellfire ?

    I would like bro n Sis to quote from Quran and hadith and reply to both of my posts so that I may share it with my friend.

    Thank you for ur valuable time
    May Allah reward u all
    Bro, no reference can be provided for such a person. Because if Rasulullah (PBUH) isn't true messenger (Na'udhubillah), then there is no Quran & no Hadith i.e. no message of Allaah exists in this world.


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    As-Salaamu ‘alaykum wa-Rahmatullah

    I had once listened to a talk by Hazrat Maulana Yunus Patel (Rahmatullah Alayh) and the respected Shaykh gave an excellent and beautiful analogy in regards to the Muslim who is weak in his faith, actions and character, and a Non-Muslim who is occupied in service to the creation and other good deeds.

    Hazrat Maulana (RA) explained something as follows :

    “We have money which is genuine and money which is counterfeit. If someone has a $100 note which is old, crumpled and even torn, but it is genuine, it will be valid for use.
    The government accepts such a note.

    If a person has a brand-new, clean, crisp, $100 note but it is counterfeit, the government will reject it.

    Similarly, the Muslim can be ‘torn and crumpled’ in his character and in regards to good deeds, but due to his Imaan, he is accepted in the Court of Allah Ta’ala. He will enter Jannat – even though it may be a delayed entry.

    The Non- Muslim can have the best of character and can be engaged in many good deeds, but he is like that counterfeit note, not worth anything (due his disbelief) – and will thus be rejected by Allah Ta’ala.
    He will not be accepted for Jannat.

    The non-Muslim commits “High Treason” with his Kufr or Shirk, and this exceeds all other crimes or limits of disobedience, for which there can be no bail or parole – i.e. from Jahannum.”


    Allah Ta’ala guide and save us all.

    • Imaan is not complete without Belief in the Prophet-hood of Muhammad (Sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa-Sallam). Don’t we testify with the words: “THERE IS NONE WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER.” ?


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    A student with a very good preparation for exam but no enrollment card is not allowed to sit in the exam and hence he fails despite his good preparation.
    In this world is a Paradise, whoever does not enter it will enter the Paradise of the Hereafter : Shaykh Ul Islam Imam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah


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