Support for Taqleed of One Madhab

[maneatinglizard]

I know there is a difference of opinion on the matter of Taqleed of one Madhab versus unrestricted Taqleed, but I found these few quotes quite interesting as evidence supporting the Deobandi opinion that it is necessary for a layman to follow one Madhab:

Maliki Madhab

Al-Zarkashi said in Bahr al-Muhit (8/374):

“Ibn al-Munir took the balanced view and said: The evidence necessitates the adherence to a particular school after the period of the four Imams and not before them. The difference is that people before the four Imams did not record their madhabs…”

Al-Nafrawi said in Fawakih al-Dawani (2/357):

“Consensus of the Muslims today has formed regarding the necessity of following one of the four Imams: Abu Hanifah, Malik, al-Shafi and Ahmad bin Hanbal (Allah be pleased with them all)…And we have mentioned previously the necessity of following one of the Imams, and that it is for the one incapable of performing ijtihad.”

Shaykh Illish said in Fath al-Aliyy al-Malik (1/90):

“It is reported from the jurist Abu Abdullah al-Sanusi that he said: As for the scholar who has not reached the rank of ijtihad, and the absolute common person, it necessary for both of them to make taqlid of a mujtahid…and the correct view is that it is necessary from them both to adhere to a specific madhab from the madhabs of the mujtahid scholars.”

Shafi Scholars

Jalal al-Mahalli said in his commentary on the Jam al-Jawami (2/440):

“The more correct view is that it is necessary for the common person and other than him who has not reached the level of ijtihad to adhere to a specific madhab from the madhabs of the mujtahid scholars.”

Hanbali Madhab

Al-Mardawi said in Al-Insaf (11/194):

“He said in Al-Riayah al-Kubra: It is necessary for every muqallid to adhere to a specific madhab according to the well known view, and that he not make taqlid of other than its scholars.”

Ibn Najjar al-Futuhi said in Sharh Kawkab al-Munir (p.627):

“It is said: Rather it is necessary to adhere to a madhab. In al-Riayah he said: This is the well known view, and that he not make taqlid of other than its scholars.”

Taken from:
http://www.daralhadith.org.uk/?p=2458

[al-Anfal]

I do not agree with these people. I believe only Allah can tell us what is obligatory. They are very wrong for what they are saying and Allah will hold them accountable. People should not pretend to be Allah and tell others what is necessary and what is not. That is similar to what the Jews did and Allah cursed them.

People like myself did not leave a religion run by popes, bishops and priests. To come into a religion run by other men. Please do not make Islam look like Judaism or Catholicism. No one should follow any man other than the Prophet of Allah.

In Judaism, there are also four schools of thoughts. But their schools existed before people who made schools of thoughts with Islam. The Prophet told us people will follow the Jews and Christians. Prophecy has been fulfilled!

[mujahid7ia]

I do not agree with these people. I believe only Allah can tell us what is obligatory. They are very wrong for what they are saying and Allah will hold them accountable. People should not pretend to be Allah and tell others what is necessary and what is not. That is similar to what the Jews did and Allah cursed them.
People like myself did not leave a religion run by popes, bishops and priests. To come into a religion run by other men. Please do not make Islam look like Judaism or Catholicism. No one should follow any man other than the Prophet of Allah.

"These people" are some very knowledgeable scholars of Islam, and isn't something which is necessary to complete the obligations Allah has laid down upon us, obligatory itself?

(Anyway, let's not make this thread about taqlid in general, as it seems you are trying to do, but about the different types of taqlid the brother mentioned, and these quotes.)

[al-Anfal]

"These people" are some very knowledgeable scholars of Islam, and isn't something which is necessary to complete the obligations Allah has laid down upon us, obligatory itself?

(Anyway, let's not make this thread about taqlid in general, as it seems you are trying to do, but about the different types of taqlid the brother mentioned, and these quotes.)

I do not find any difference between these people and the Jewish Rabbis and Catholic Popes. They all say the same thing and none of them have the right to do so.

Do you know how paganism crept into Judaism and Christianity? Through knowledgeable people. It was the scholars of each religion that corrupted the religion when they left their scriptures. The only difference now is that Allah promises to protect the Quran. But he did not say he will protect the scholars!

Allah said He completed Islam.

[al_Zayn]

I do not agree with these people. I believe only Allah can tell us what is obligatory. They are very wrong for what they are saying and Allah will hold them accountable. People should not pretend to be Allah and tell others what is necessary and what is not.

Firstly you are very wrong! The quotes bought forward didn't say obligatory. The translators used the words necessary / necessitates / necessity.

And yes due to external causes something can be made Mandatory, take for example Nikah (Marriage) it has been clearly classified as Sunnah by Rasulullah (al-Nikahu Min Sunnathee....Sahih Muslim) - but the Scholars do not differ that in certain situations it could well be Wajib or even Fardh on a person to get Married due to external causes.

I advise you please be careful in what you say.

[al_Zayn]

Do you know how paganism crept into Judaism and Christianity? Through knowledgeable people. It was the scholars of each religion that corrupted the religion when they left their scriptures.

Allah clearly said it got corrupted through people (Rabbis and Christian monks) who were themselves corrupted (i.e. selling the Scriptures for a small gain).

Unless you think the Scholars of Islam are themsleves corrupted? La Hawla Wa Laa Quwwata Illa Billah!

[al-Anfal]

Firstly you are very wrong! The quotes bought forward didn't say obligatory. The translators used the words necessary / necessitates / necessity.

And yes due to external causes something can be made Mandatory, take for example Nikah (Marriage) it has been clearly classified as Sunnah by Rasulullah (al-Nikahu Min Sunnathee....Sahih Muslim) - but the Scholars do not differ that in certain situations it could well be Wajib or even Fardh on a person to get Married due to external causes.

I advise you please be careful in what you say.

The first quote says "The EVIDENCE NECESSITATE the adherence to a particular school after the period of the four Imams and not before them. The difference is that people before the four Imams did not record their madhabs…”

Can you show me where Allah said something that is not necessary, becomes a necessity? I may not know about it. Same if you have a sahih hadith. Thanks!

[al-Anfal]

Allah clearly said it got corrupted through people (Rabbis and Christian monks) who were themselves corrupted (i.e. selling the Scriptures for a small gain).

Unless you think the Scholars of Islam are themsleves corrupted? La Hawla Wa Laa Quwwata Illa Billah!

Allah calls them Rabbis and Priests = scholars of those religions.

Knowledge is power and power corrupts! I do think scholars of Islam followed the footsteps of those before them and eventually became corrupt. But not all of them of course! There are always a tiny bit that are good

[al_Zayn]

The first quote says "The EVIDENCE NECESSITATE the adherence to a particular school after the period of the four Imams and not before them. The difference is that people before the four Imams did not record their madhabs…”

Can you show me where Allah said something that is not necessary, becomes a necessity? I may not know about it. Same if you have a sahih hadith. Thanks!

I think you mis-understood it, the evidence here is referring to - the environment which necessitates following one School, because the word necessary was used.

Otherwise it is an obligation for the non Mujthahid to make Taqleed of a Mujthahid which he trusts, for that there is ample evidence. i.e. "Fas'aloo Ahl al-Dhikri In Kuntum Laa Ta'lamoon".

Pay attention to the words necessity and obligatory, they are used differently with slightly different meaning like Fardh and Wajib / Laazim. (Fardh is based upon Qati' Daleel whilst Wajib / Laazim is based upon Dhanni Daleel)

[al_Zayn]

Allah calls them Rabbis and Priests = scholars of those religions.

Knowledge is power and power corrupts! I do think scholars of Islam followed the footsteps of those before them and eventually became corrupt. But not all of them of course! There are always a tiny bit that are good

what is your proof that Scholars became corrupt (i.e. having ill intents)? (i do hope you know if you cant provide proof then that would itself be slander).

What is your proof that a tiny bit of the past Scholars are good and not a huge chunk of them are good?