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Thread: Narration of Ibn Masud on Rafa al Yedain & Fatwa of Dar ul `Uloom Deoband on it

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    Arrow URGENT! Need translation help (Urdu+Arabic to English)

    as salamu aleykum


    I need help of attached file to be translated in English.

    I need somebody who can speak Urdu and Arabic
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    its quite long inshaAllah when i have time i'll try and transalate for you..



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    As salaam aleykum,

    That would be great brother!


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    Arrow REMINDER for translation help!!!

    as salamu aleykum,

    No body who can help me with this?


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    Q. `Alqamah has narrated that Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Mas’ood Radhi Allahu `anhu said that Rasoolullah Sallallahu `alyhi wa Sallam observed Rafu’l Yadain and we imitated him and when he abandoned, we too did the same.(Badaai’us us Sanaai’ Volume 1 Page 385).
    What is the status of this Hadith? Is it a Sahih Hadith?
    Kindly send the complete sanad for this Hadith.
    was Salam
    ozgur
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    The Answer: And perfection is for Allah and (from Him comes) success: This Hadeeth is correct. You have not mentioned the whole Hadeeth and apparently not looked at the footnotes of Badai‘-us-sanai‘. Please look up these reference from the following books, first the (references for the) noble Hadith itself and then (references for) it's status.

    From `Alqamah, he said, "I prayed behind `Abdullah ibn Mas'ud and he did not raise his hands, i.e at the time of going for ruku' and after lifting his head from ruku', so I said to him, "Why do you not lift your hands?" So he said, "I prayed behind Rasoolullah Sallallahu `alyhi wa Sallam and behind Abu Bakr and `Umar and they did not lift their hand except at the time of the Takbir with which they began their salah"" (the Hadith)

    This has been authenticated by an-Nasai in a brief version and in at-Ta'leeq al-Hasan (vol 1 page 104). This chain of narration is sahih, said the Shaykh Zafar : "It's narrators are the narrators of the two Sahihs except for Muhammad ibn Nu'man and he is thiqah and as for `Asim he was from the narrators of Muslim, thiqah. And al-Bayhiqi has authenticated it with excelled (jayyid) isnad as has been mentioned in al-Jawhar un-Naqi. (vol 1 page 138) and look at `Ila us Sunan (vol 3 page 56) and look at the narrations of the Sahabah and the Taba`ieen in this matter in `Ila us Sunan vol 3 page 73, Badai' us Sanai' vol 1 page 475
    Look up the above mentioned details at your leisure or have a scholar explain them to you. Write to us if any doubt remain afterwards.
    And Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala is the Greater Knower of what is right.

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    The answer is correct: Habib ur Rahman, Muhammad Zafar ud Deen, Kafil ur Rahman/ Muftis of the Dar ul `Uloom Deoband


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    Default Interesting hadeeth by Abdullah ibn Masud on Rafa al Yedain

    As salamu aleykum wa rahmat ullahi wa barakatuh.


    I found in a book (The Way the Noble Messenger Offered His Prayers by Mufti Jamil Ahmed Naziri) this hadeeth:

    Abdullah bin Mas’ood narrated that Nabi (SAW) observed Rafu’l Yadain and we imitated him and when he abandoned, we too did the
    same.(Badaai’us us Sanaai’ Volume 1 Page 485)


    Anybody can check this hadeeth in Imam Kasani's Badaai us Sanaai volume 1 Page 485?

    Cause if the narration is SAHIH then the question of Rafa al Yedain is solved according to my knowledge or not? Cause then really Rafa al yedain is abandoned.

    Any comments on this hadeeth are very welcome.


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