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    Default who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    can anyone shed some light on this beutiful person

    no offensive comments pls


    jazakallah


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    Maulana Ahmed Raza Khan is the Alim of the Barelwis. It is advisable for those with insufficient knowledge to abstain from reading his works as he had some incorrect beliefs and it may lead one to confusion between proper and improper beliefs. He also accused many of the great Deobandi Ulema of being disbelievers after they stood up to the Barelwis when their improper beliefs were spreading. (May Allah Ta'ala protect us) (Fatawa Rahimiyya, Vol. 2, P. 27, Darul Isha'at)

    Some of the beliefs of Moulana Ahmed Raza Khan are:

    1. Rasullullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasalam) had the knowledge of the unseen
    (Nizamul Fatawa,Vol.1,Pg.177,Deoband)


    2. That the Aayat “He is the first and the last and, he has power over everything and knows everything”, was referring to the being of Rasullullah (Sallahallahu alaihi wasalam).
    (Sura Hadeed, Verse 4)


    3. It was possible that Rasullullah (Sallahallahu alaihi wasalam) could have forgotten some of the Aayat of the Quraan (aliyaazu billah).
    (Nizamul Fatawa,Vol.1,Pg.177,Deoband)


    4. Help can be sought directly from the late Hazrat Shaikh Abdul Qaadir Jailani (Rahimahullah) (not as a medium to Allah Taa`la but that, Abdul Qaadir Jaailani (Rahimahullah) can directly grant help. )
    (Nizamul Fatawa Pg.179,Vol 1,Deoband)


    5. Rasullullah (Sallahallahu alaihi wasalam) is Omni-present. (Haazir Naazir).
    (Nizaamul Fatawa Pg.195 Vol.1 Deoband)


    All of the above are incorrect beliefs.


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    brother i am also a brailvi and i also belive that the prophet s.a.w is haazir and naazir, i belive that we can get help from ghout ul azam and i belive about unseen knowlegde can u pls back up your points so i can understand where the deobandis are coming from, can u pls clarify what the deobandis belive on the topic of wether the prophet s.a.w is noor or bashr

    thankyou brother for actually replying to my thread i am looking forward to hearing from you

    jazakallah


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    Do you believe you can seek help directly from Abdul qadir jilani RH? Or do you you believe you can use him as an intermediary to Allah?


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    Truthseeker1 > Some 'deobandies' see no problems with asking dead ones here...


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    classic information about Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi is here http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...a-Khan-Barelwi

    Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi was refuted by Sunni Scholars such as Sayyid Ahmad Barzanji al-Shafi of madinah al-sharif and other numerous sunni scholars

    Anyone doing research of takfiri barelwi sect should visit this page http://www.youtube.com/user/ExposingBatil2 and see for themselves the scanned pages showing the heresy and deviancy of the founder of Barelwi sect ;

    you may also want to check out this http://barelwism.wordpress.com/
    In the last moments of Alahazrat, 2 hours, 17 minutes before his death, Mawlana Ahmad Raza Khan prescribed a list of dishes which his followers should prepare together in regards to the practice of “Fatiha.” He said as mentioned in his last directions published by his followers:

    “If possible, Fatiha should be done twice or three times a week and provided with the following things:
    1. Cold milk [dudh ka barf khana saz], if possible from buffalow milk.
    2. Chicken biryani
    3. Chicken pilaw
    4. Shami kebab, even if it is from a goat.
    5. Parathay aur balai
    6. Custard [firni]
    7. Black dentils with adrak and other condiments [lawazim]
    8. Meat of bhari kucho
    9. Apple juice
    10. Pomegranate juice
    11. Bottle of soda
    12. Cold milk [dudh ka barf]“

    Original scan of Wasaya, p. 9:

    Notice how the leader of the Barelwis ordered twice to prepare cold milk.

    Dr. Khalid Mahmud comments, “In one’s last moments pious people are busy in asking forgiveness. They are busy with dhikr and qur’anic recitation. One has thoughts about the Hereafter, but Khan sahib was busy with making a list of different kind of food.” [Mutali'a Barelwiyat, 1/21].

    Please note, the book Wasaya Sharif [plural of wasiya] has been published for years by Barelwis. Nothing from this work is disputed by the Barelwis in anyway.


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truthseeker1 View Post
    Do you believe you can seek help directly from Abdul qadir jilani RH? Or do you you believe you can use him as an intermediary to Allah?
    i belive that i can use ghawth al azam r.a as a waseelah as the wali of allah are promised everything and they can help one to get to allah as they are freinds of allah

    jazakallah


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    brother you have just heard one side of the story you hear what you ulama say and then you follow it, i ask kindly that you do your own research and try to learn as i am learning slowly about the deobandi beliefs, i can easily post links that such as yours about your scholars or about imama ahmad ridha khan r.a but that is not the point we must reasearch for ourselves and find the truth and see both angles of the arguments and make a decision based on that

    i am a brailvi sunni hanfi

    may i ask what maslaq you belong to

    jazakallah khair moulana


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    I would first like to ask:

    Do you reject takfeer of Deobandis? Barelvis make takfeer of Deobandis and say that anyone who doesn't agree is also a kaafir.
    ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا


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    Default Re: who was imam ahmad ridha khan fazil e brailvi r.a?

    pls elaborate on takfeer


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