what are the main deobandi beliefs regarding the prophet muhammad s.a.w?

[StrengtheningMyDeen]

brother we are talking about prophet muhammad s.a.w and if yopu beleive that he s.a.w is haazir and naazir aswell as prophet musa alayisalam than that is upto you, can u please tell me what it does say in surah ahzaab if it does not say shahidanwamubashirawwanadhira.

brother you have said that it says in the quran that the ilm e ghaib is only for allah. pls read the ayah's below and comment

Proof from the Qur’an that the Prophet Muhammad [May Allah bless him and grant him peace] has been given the knowledge of Ghayb

Allah says in the Qur’an,

“These are the tidings of Unseen that We reveal to you in secret”.

Surah-Ale-Imran, verse 44.

“Nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen. But He chooses of His Apostles (For the purpose)”

Surah-Ale-Imran, verse 179.

“The Knower of Unseen reveals not His secret to anyone. Except to His chosen Messengers”.

Surah-Al-Jinn, verse 26.

“…Allah has sent down to you the Book and Wisdom and has taught to you what you did not know, and great is the grace of Allah upon you.”

Surah Al-Nisa, Verse 113.

Imam Tabari writes under this verse:

Allah TA’ALA has told the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), you must thank Allah TA’ALA Who has informed you of what has already happened and what will happen in the future and this is a great grace of Allah upon you.

(Tafsir Tabari under verse 113 of Surah Al-Nisa).

The above Qur’anic verses prove that Allah TA’ALA has given Muhammad (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) the knowledge of the Ghayb.


pls comment on this tommorrow and take care brother

jazakallah

asalamualikum

[abuhajira]

brother we are talking about prophet muhammad s.a.w and if yopu beleive that he s.a.w is haazir and naazir aswell as prophet musa alayisalam than that is upto you, can u please tell me what it does say in surah ahzaab if it does not say shahidanwamubashirawwanadhira.

brother you have said that it says in the quran that the ilm e ghaib is only for allah. pls read the ayah's below and comment

Proof from the Qur’an that the Prophet Muhammad [May Allah bless him and grant him peace] has been given the knowledge of Ghayb

Allah says in the Qur’an,

“These are the tidings of Unseen that We reveal to you in secret”.

Surah-Ale-Imran, verse 44.

“Nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen. But He chooses of His Apostles (For the purpose)”

Surah-Ale-Imran, verse 179.

“The Knower of Unseen reveals not His secret to anyone. Except to His chosen Messengers”.

Surah-Al-Jinn, verse 26.

“…Allah has sent down to you the Book and Wisdom and has taught to you what you did not know, and great is the grace of Allah upon you.”

Surah Al-Nisa, Verse 113.

Imam Tabari writes under this verse:

Allah TA’ALA has told the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace), you must thank Allah TA’ALA Who has informed you of what has already happened and what will happen in the future and this is a great grace of Allah upon you.

(Tafsir Tabari under verse 113 of Surah Al-Nisa).

The above Qur’anic verses prove that Allah TA’ALA has given Muhammad (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) the knowledge of the Ghayb.


pls comment on this tommorrow and take care brother

jazakallah

asalamualikum

please read my response to you in the other thread.

also do search it up. The issue was recently (a month or so ago) discussed for perhaps 15th time on SF

[StrengtheningMyDeen]

brother you seem to be brushing me off, i am openminded i want to know the truth regardless if it is deobandi etc you are a scholar you shouldnt be tired of discussing anything even if it means discussing evrysingle day so pls tell me what you think about the ayahs pls

jazakallah

[abuhajira]

brother you seem to be brushing me off, i am openminded i want to know the truth regardless if it is deobandi etc you are a scholar you shouldnt be tired of discussing anything even if it means discussing evrysingle day so pls tell me what you think about the ayahs pls

jazakallah

InshAllah I will engage you.. but in my freetime. At this moment I can only give you these advices. There is no fruit is a fruitless argument. Hence we advise towards fruitfull issues.

[irfan@tabligh]

these quotes that you have used brother are only that which allah has revealed tot he prophet, they dont prove that hes ilm e ghaib. The ayats that the brothers have given you are clealrey saying that ilm e ghaib is only with allah, only some knowledge of the unseen has allah given the prohet muhamad s.a.w, if prophet did have the knowlegde of the unseen, then why did he not predict the death of his uncle or that of umar etc etc

[StrengtheningMyDeen]

why do deobandis try to find ways that makes the status of the prohet s.a.w lower than it is. you disagree that the prophet is haazir and naazir, you say has ilm e ghayb than anyone can have etc. why??

and what is your belief on noor or bashr?

jazakallah

[StrengtheningMyDeen]

these quotes that you have used brother are only that which allah has revealed tot he prophet, they dont prove that hes ilm e ghaib. The ayats that the brothers have given you are clealrey saying that ilm e ghaib is only with allah, only some knowledge of the unseen has allah given the prohet muhamad s.a.w, if prophet did have the knowlegde of the unseen, then why did he not predict the death of his uncle or that of umar etc etc

brother these ayahs clearly state that allah has given ilm e ghaib to muhammad s.a.w. the brailvis agree that this is not like the ilm e ghaib like allah it is different as it is can be further developed and it is given from allah,

brother do you agree that prophet muhammad s.a.w has ilm e ghaib but not the same level as allah.

[irfan@tabligh]

The deobandis dont decrease the status of the prophet but keep it the same as it was in his time, its jsut a shame ahmed raza khan had deviant beliefs and views and the prophet is bashr Say O Prophet of ALLAH ! : I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your God is One God : whoever expects to meet his Lord,let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner [Surah Al-Kahf verse:110]

[StrengtheningMyDeen]

brother this ayah you have quoted i would like to elaborate: the reason why allah told the prophet s.a.w to say this was because the prophets who came before were mistakenly taken as god as when one person done the hifz of the towrah they claimed he was god, when isa alayhislam cured people from blindness some people made him god some made him son of god, because of this allah told the prophet s.a.w to say this so people do not mistake him as a god or son of god.

brother bashara also means skin in arabic so if we take this meansing we see that the profit s.a.w skin is like bashr but in truth inside he s.a.w is noor. that is why the prophet s.a.w could fast for long periods and when asked how he said allah feeds me , the ulama have said that he did not used to get fed he used to see allah and do ziyarah of allah and in this status his thirst and hunger would go

this is the true meaning of this ayah it is a shame that ashraf ali thanvi belives that prophet muhammad s.a.w is an ordinary man just like himself astagfirullah

[Sulaiman84]

this is the true meaning of this ayah it is a shame that ashraf ali thanvi belives that prophet muhammad s.a.w is an ordinary man just like himself astagfirullah

You were doing so nice with your rhetorical questions until now. Try sticking to explaining your beliefs before getting into slinging mud.