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    QUESTION:
    How old was Aisha (R.A.) when she married the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.)? Did Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) marry a 9 year old?

    ANSWER:

    The Quran was written during the time of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) and its 100%
    authentic! Nowhere in The Quran is it mentioned about the Prophet's(P.B.U.H.)
    marriage!
    But its mentioned in the Hadiths!

    BUT LETS SEE WHAT THESE HADITHS SAY

    The Prophet married Aisha (R.A.) 1 year after Hijrah! This is a known fact!

    POINT 1
    According to Sahih Bukhari (which is the most authentic) of the hadiths! According to Sahih Bukhari, Aisha (R.A.) is reported to have said that at the time
    Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th Chapter of the Quran, was revealed, "I was a
    young girl"
    The 54th surah of The Quran was revealed nine years before Hijrah. So Aisha (R.A.) was a young girl (jariyah), and not an infant (sibyah) at that time! THE PROPHET MARRIED Aisha (R.A.) ONE YEAR AFTER HIJRAH! SO NOW WE KNOW SHE WAS A YOUNG GIRL, 9 YEARS BEFORE HIJRAH

    SO EVEN IFFOR EXAMPLE SHE WAS 7 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE SAID "I WAS A YOUNG GIRL", THEN SHE MARRIED THE PROPHET 10 YEARS AFTER THAT! WHICH MEANS SHE WAS OVER 17 YEARS OLD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER!
    POINT 2
    According to a number of narratives, Aisha (R.A.) accompanied the Muslims in the
    Battle of Badr and Uhud. It was usual for women to accompany men in
    battle so they can help in looking after the wounded.
    It was a strict rule that noone under the age of 15 was allowed to accompany anyone in battle! BATTLE OF BADR WAS 2 YEARS AFTER HIJRAH AND BATTLE OF UHUD WAS 3 YEARS AFTER HIJRAH! REMEMBER PROPHET Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) MARRIED HER 1 YEAR AFTER HIJRAH! WHICH MEANS SHE COULD NEVER HAVE BEEN 9 YEARS OLD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER!
    POINT 3
    It is a known fact that the Asma, (the elder sister of Aisha (R.A.)) was 10 years
    older than Aisha (R.A.). It is reported that Asma died 73 years after Hijrah when
    she was 100 years old!

    Now, Obviously if Asma was 100 years old 73 years after Hijrah, then Asma should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of Hijrah! If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at Hijrah, then Aisha (R.A.) would be 17 or 18 years old at Hijrah! REMEMBER PROPHET Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) MARRIED Aisha (R.A.) 1 YEAR AFTER HIJRAH! SO THAT MEANS Aisha (R.A.) WAS 18 OR 19 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE GOT MARRIED!
    POINT 4
    Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr (father
    of Aisha (R.A.)) reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born
    during pre Islamic period!
    If Aisha (R.A.) was born before in the Pre Islamic period, then she would be more than 13 years old during Hijrah! REMEMBER PROPHET MARRIED HER 1 YEAR AFTER HIJRAH,
    WHICH MEANS SHE WOULD BE MORE THAT 14 YEARS OLD
    DURING THE TIME OF MARRIAGE!
    POINT 5
    According to Ibn Hisham, Aisha (R.A.) accepted Islam quite some time before
    Umar ibn Khattab. Umar ibn Khattab accepted Islam roughly 7 years before
    Hijrah!
    Obviously, she would have been a young girl when she accpeted Islam!

    If you add 7 years to a young girl! You can think for yourselves! REMEMBER PROPHET MARRIED HER 1 YEAR AFTER HIJRAH!
    POINT 6
    According to Ibn Hajar, Fathima (daughter of Prophet) was 5 years older than Aisha (R.A.)! Fathima was born more than 5 years before Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) was a Prophet! That means Fathima was born more than 19 years before Hijrah! PROPHET MARRIED Aisha (R.A.) ONE YEAR AFTER HIJRAH! SO THIS AGAIN PROVES Aisha (R.A.) WAS OVER 15 YEARS OLD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER!
    ALL THIS EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT Aisha (R.A.)
    WAS NOT 9 YEARS OLD WHEN THE
    PROPHET MARRIED HER!

    BUT WHERE DOES IT SAY SHE WAS 9 YEARS OLD?


    The narratives saying Aisha (R.A.) was 9 years old at the time of marriage, are
    reported only by a man named Hisham ibn Urwah reporting from what he
    heard from his father!
    If Hisham ibn Urwah was right then others would have also reported but Hisham ibn Urwah is the only person to report this! Hisham ibn Urwah lived in Medinah but its very fishy because there were so many others in Medinah including the Jews!
    Even the Jews did not report any such thing!
    If Prophet had married a 9 year old, obviously the Jews would have reported
    or made a fuss because as we know Jews always wanted to destroy Islam! All the narratives saying Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) married a 9 year old have been
    reported from Iraq! Hisham ibn Urwah moved to Iraq later and these
    narratives come from Iraq! Hisham moved to Iraq when he was 71 years old!
    We know Iraq was influenced by Shias! Shia Muslims don't like the Prophet!
    We don't know if the narratives of Hisham ibn Urwah were influenced by
    them!
    The narratives of Hisham ibn Urwah where he says Aisha (R.A.) was 9 years old when she married the Prophet have all come from Iraq!
    WHAT DO OTHERS SAY ABOUT HISHAM IBN URWAH?
    Tehzibu'l-tehzib, a man who was one of the most well known people on the life and reliability of the narratives of the traditions of the Prophet!
    What did he have to say about Hisham ibn Urwah's narrations?
    According to Yaqub ibn Shaibah he said: "narratives reported by Hisham
    which are reported through the people of Iraq are unreliable!
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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    Actually she was nine according to the authentic narrations in Sunni and Shia books as well as the opinion of the expert historians.

    So don't waste your time...
    إن كان حب آل البيت رفضا فليشهد الثقلان إني رافضي


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    'Aisha was 6 years at the time of marriage and 9 years when the nikah was consummated. This revisionism in an attempt to placate non-Muslim sentiments does us no good.
    ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا


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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    An expert Muhaddith from Egypt replies:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JJ4io7n5Ho
    إن كان حب آل البيت رفضا فليشهد الثقلان إني رافضي


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    A useful summary containing some of the information mentioned by the scholar in the episode above can be downloaded from here:

    Link: The Age of Aishah's Marriage Between Historians and Hadith Scholars

    Some of the other chains mentioned for the Hadith (there are more):

    1- Aishah → 'Urwah → Az-Zuhree → Mamar → Abdur Razaaq → Abd ibn Humaid → Muslim

    2- Aishah → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash→ Abu Mua’awiyah → Yahya ibn Yahya, Ishaaq ibn Ibraheem, Abu Bakr ibn Abee Shaibah and Abu Kuraib → Muslim

    3- Aishah → Yahya (ibn Abdur Rahmaan ibn Haatib) → Muhammad (ibn Amr) → the father of U’baidullah ibn Muadh → Ubaidullah ibn Muadh → Abu Dawood

    4- Aishah → Abu Salamah ibn Abdur Rahman → Muhammad ibn Ibraheem → I’mara ibn Ghazya → Yahya ibn Ayub → the paternal uncle of Ahmad ibn Sa’d ibn Al-Hakam ibn Abee Maryam → Ahmad ibn Sa’d ibn Al-Hakam ibn Abee Maryam → An-Nasaaee

    5- Aishah → Abu U’baidah → Abu Ishaaq → Mutarrif → A'bthar → Qutaibah → An-Nasaaee

    6- Aishah → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah → Muhammad ibn Al-A'laa’ and Ahmad ibn Harb → An-Nasaaee

    7- Abdullah → Abu Ubaidah → Abu Ishaaq → Israeel → Abu Ahmad→ Ahmad ibn Sinan → Ibn Majah

    8- Aishah → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah→ the father of Abdullah → Abdullah → Ahmad ibn Hanbal

    9- Aishah → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah → Yahya ibn Yahya → Abu Ja’far Muhammad ibn Al-Hajjaaj Al-Waraaq → Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Ya’qoub → Abu Abdullah Al-Haafidh → Al-Baihaqi

    10- Jaabir → Yazeed ibn Jaabir → Abdullah ibn Abdur Rahman ibn Yazeed ibn Jaabir → Abu Mushar Abdul A’laa ibn Mushar → Ibraheem ibn Al-Hussain ibn Daizeel → Ahmad ibn U’baid ibn Ibraheem Al-Asdee, the Haafidh of Hamdan → Al-Haakim

    11- Abdullah → Abu U’baidah → Abu Ishaaq→ Shareek → Yahya ibn Adam → Abdur Rahman ibn Saalih Al-Azdee → Muhammad ibn Moosaa ibn Hammaad Al-Barbaree
    → At-Tabaraani

    12- Qataadah → Sa’eed ibn Abee U’roba → Zuhair ibn Ala’la Al-Qaisee → Ahmad ibn Al-Miqdaam → Muhammad ibn Ja’far ibn Ai’n Al-Baghdaadee → At-Tabaraani

    13- Aishah → Al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad → Sa’d ibn Ibraheem → Sufyaan → Muhammad ibn Al-Hassan Al-Asdee → Al-Hassan ibn Sahal Al-Hannat → Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Hadramee → At-Tabaraani

    14- Aishah → Abu U’baidah → Abu Ishaaq → Mutarrif → A’bthar ibn Al-Wasim → Sa’eed ibn Amr Al-Sha’athi → Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Hadramee → At-Tabaraani

    15- Abu Maleekah → Abu Usaama → Al-Ajla’e Abdullah ibn U’mar ibn Abbaan → Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Hadramee → At-Tabaraani

    16- Aishah → 'Urwah → Hisham ibn ’Urwah → Abdur Rahman → Sulaiman ibn Dawood → the father of Abdullah → Abdullah → Ahmad ibn Hanbal
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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulwahhab View Post


    'Aisha was 6 years at the time of marriage and 9 years when the nikah was consummated. This revisionism in an attempt to placate non-Muslim sentiments does us no good.
    What is meant by an attempt to placate non muslim sentiments? Where do you get your facts from relating to the age of Aisha?


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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    Now since we're done with the opinions and Asaneed of Ahlul-Sunnah, let us reply to the Ithna 'Ashari Shia from their own books and from the authentic sayings of Ahlul-Bayt (as) according to their school:

    1- Muwathaqa or Sahiha of Ibn Sinan from the Shaykh's chain to Hasan bin Sam'ah -
    الوسائل ج19 ص365 وتهذيب الأحكام ج9 ص184 والكافي ج7 ص68

    الحسن بن سماعة عن جعفر بن سماعة عن آدم بياع اللؤلؤ عن عبدالله بن سنان عن ابي عبدالله عليه السلام قال: اذا بلغ الغلام ثلاث عشرة سنة كتبت له الحسنة وكتبت عليه السيئة وعوقب وإذا بلغت الجارية تسع سنين فكذلك وذلك انها تحيض لتسع سنين

    Hasan bin Sam'ah from Ja'far bin Sam'ah from Adam Lu'lui fro Abdillah bin Sinan from IMAM Abu Abdillah (a.s) who said: When a boy reaches 13 years good and evil deeds are recorded for him and when a girl reaches nine years likewise and that is because she begins menstruating at nine.

    source: Wasael al-Shia 19/365, Tahtheeb al-Ahkam 9/184, al-Kafi 7/68.

    2-
    [75] 5 ـ وعن علي بن إبراهيم، عن محمد بن عيسى، عن يونس، عن أبي أيوب الخراز، عن إسماعيل بن جعفر ـ في حديث ـ أن رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) دخل بعائشة وهي بنت عشر سنين، وليس يدخل بالجارية حتى تكون امرأة.

    And from Ali b. Ibrahim from Muhammad b. `Isa from Yunus from Abu Ayyub al-Kharraz from Isma`il b. Ja`far in a hadith that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله entered upon (i.e. had intercourse with) `A’isha and she was ten years old, and that one does not enter upon a girl until she is a woman.

    Source:
    Al-Kulayni, Al-Kaafi, vol. 7 pg. 388 - 389, hadeeth # 1
    Grading:
    Al-Majlisi said this hadeeth is SaHeeH
    --> Mir'aat Al-`Uqool, vol. 24, pg. 235

    There are more proofs from their books but I doubt you'll need any as these are enough, overall what we've presented answers Sunni and Shia deniers incha-Allah.

    و السلام عليكم
    إن كان حب آل البيت رفضا فليشهد الثقلان إني رافضي


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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    Is anyone able to address the OP's points directly? I also met the exact same arguements and wasnt sure how to deal with them dispite being pretty certain that they are just muslim attempts to please kuffar bgut irrespective of that, academic points were made and need to be addressed. My question to the OP is where is your evidence that suratul qamar was revealed at the time you claimed?
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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    there is a valid point that this hadeeth regarding ayesha's age is narrated from a sahaba and not narrated from ayesha herself or the prophet, so even though its in bukhari, it only means the chain is authenticly linked back to urwah. Its doesnt prove that urwah was correct in his oppinion.

    Another question to the OP, can you give any examples in bukhari or muslim where things are authentically narrated by sahaba's but the sahaba were incorrect in their statement. For example, erroneous fiqh rulings (I believe some of the sahaba held mutah and music and other things to be halal for example, can this be traced back to bukhari or muslim?)
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    Default Re: Age Of Aisha (R.A.) at the time of marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawud Beale View Post
    Is anyone able to address the OP's points directly? I also met the exact same arguements and wasnt sure how to deal with them dispite being pretty certain that they are just muslim attempts to please kuffar bgut irrespective of that, academic points were made and need to be addressed. My question to the OP is where is your evidence that suratul qamar was revealed at the time you claimed?
    Akhi I uploaded a small book for you guys in my post above, has anyone bothered to read it?

    Link: The Age of Aishah's Marriage Between Historians and Hadith Scholars
    إن كان حب آل البيت رفضا فليشهد الثقلان إني رافضي


    من أقوال الإمام الشافعي

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