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    But the Muslims soon turned insular. They shut themselves from Europe and became a closed community. The Muslims were in Europe for 8 Centuries but the contact with Christian Europe was minimal and limited.

    The Roman Church continued to the oppress the Masses on a large scale but the Moors failed in advancing the message of Islam to the larger part of the continent. The Christian masses were oppressed in the name of GOD. This caused the masses to fear and hate GOD. The seeds of secularism and atheism were sown. And slowly it started to grow and the time came when it bore the bitter fruit.

    When the Muslims reached Europe, the Romans seeked revenge. The wounds of the bitter defeat in the Old Byzantine Empire were still afresh in the minds of the Roman Catholics. They sensed they same defeat in Europe. First, they united the whole of Europe against the Muslims for the cause of liberating the Holy Lands ie. The Crusades. Second, they started a defamation campaign against the Last Prophet of Allah . He was vilified and demonified all over Europe. What lies were propagated against him . The Europeans still express the same sentiments to this day. But, the Moors turned insular and could not combat these lies and fabrications. They were cut off from Europe

    What happened is what we know as history. The continent was wiped out of Muslims and Islam.

    Today, we face the same challenges. Either give your best for the sake of propagating the message of Allah, or face the same fate as the Moors. You'll be wiped out. And the whole world will again plunge into total darkness eventually leading to it's destrucion
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    The Moors are partly or largely to be blamed for the rise of the Secularists in Europe. Why?
    aoa,
    is it because they did not propagate Islam when the masses were suppressed by the Church?
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    aoa,
    is it because they did not propagate Islam when the masses were suppressed by the Church?
    Yes! This is the reason for the downfall of most of the Muslim Empires.
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    aoa,
    do you have more on this topic?
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    aoa,
    do you have more on this topic?
    Yes, lots more to come. Currently, I've taken rest from the forums.
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    Yes, lots more to come. Currently, I've taken rest from the forums.
    aoa,
    are you back yet?
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    Default Re: Refuation of Composite Nationalism by 'Allamah Zafar Ahmad al-'Uthmani

    Lets move our discussion on secularism to the Indian subcontinent context. We have earlier mentioned the designs of the secularists, elimination of Islam from all spheres of Human life. This is what they did to uproot Islam from the Indian subcontinent.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post824459

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    Salafism is used as a pawn by the Secularists. The Secularists main goal is elimination of Islam from all spheres of human life.

    Islam governs each and every aspect of Muslims life. It provides the framework to govern the Political, Social and Economic spheres of Human Life alongwith the Spiritual spheres (Faith, Worship etc).

    The secularists will tolerate any Religion as long as it is a private affair. How did the secularists succeed in uprooting Islam from the general masses?

    A Muslim is willing to sacrifice every possession, status and honor to protect their Faith. The secularists directed their attacks on their Faith (Aqaid) and Worship (Fiqh). Since, the Muslims directed their attention to these attacks, their focus weakened on the Political, Social and Economic fronts.

    Let us analyse the subcontinents case. The English men arrived in the 17th Century and started to increase their influence in the Indian Subcontinent. The Muslims were up in arms with the invaders from that time. The Colonialists were faced with stiff resistance from the Muslims and their Jihad.

    The first attack to weaken and divert the Muslim focus was by the Christian Missionaries. The Missionaries started to proselytizing the Indian masses. The Colonialists gained little success as the people were unwilling to listen to a disbeliever. They then devised a plan to split the Muslim ranks. This plan gave rise to three prominent groups, Qadianis, Ghair Muqallids and Barelwis. These three groups worked tirelessly for the British cause. All three movements were against Jihad with the Colonialists. These movements created so much havoc and confusion that people naturally started to despise Islam itself. The western educated masses of that time could not just stand this and started to distance themselves from Islam.

    Till today we find the Muslims embroiled with these deviants and the secularists having their heyday.
    We Muslims need to advance in Political, Social, Scientific, Technological and Economic fields.

    The secularists have been successful in keeping us off from these fundamental disciplines of human life. All thanks to deviants and heretics like Qadianis, Barelwis, Shi'is, Rafidis, Salafis etc. These heretics served the purpose of the Secular colonialists by keeping us away from fulfilling our obligations towards manking at large by busying with hair splitting discussions on our Faith, Belief and Practise.

    If one were to make an honest observation, they will find that the contribution of these deviant sects to defend and advance Islamic concept of Politics, Society and Economics are simply non existent. On the other hand, one will be shocked to find kufr concepts not limited to Politics, Society and Economics but also of Faith, Belief and Practise being propagated by these deviants with full force and support from the Secular colonialists.

    Next, we move on to the basis of Ikhtilaf between the Akabir on the Partition and Composite Nationalism.
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    Default Re: Refuation of Composite Nationalism by 'Allamah Zafar Ahmad al-'Uthmani

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    The First such experiment of Secularism was tested in a Muslim country though, it turned out to be a failure.

    Jalauddin Akbar and his Din-e-Ilahi. The people instrumental in this experiment were two Shias viz, Faizi and Abul Fazl. These Shias are the enemies of Islam and Muslims since the Khayrul Quroon. Some may argue that Din-e-Ilahi was a fusion of all religion. It was infact, a systematic effort to Separate Islam from the life of the Muslims and relegate it to the Masjids and Madrasahs. All Social, Economic and Political affairs of Muslims and Non Muslims will be governed by this Din-e-Ilahi.

    May Allah bless Shaykh Mujaddid Alf e Thani Ahmed Farooqi Sirhindi . What a great personality and what a remarkable effect he has had on the Muslims. It is through his efforts that Islam was saved in the subcontinent.

    now both the parties of Ulema e Deoband Pro-Pakistan and Pro-Congress lead by Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Shaykh Hussain Ahmed Madani respectively; wanted to save the Muslims from this Secularism. Both these parties deemed it to the primary threat.

    The Ikhtilaf was Ijtihadi. Both went in different ways to deal with this menace. Inshallah will explain it later in Detail
    Can anyone present the basis of Ikhtilaf in a simple sentence? We will do so later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by At Tayyib View Post
    Can anyone present the basis of Ikhtilaf in a simple sentence? We will do so later.
    I have posted the details earlier in the third link in my Sig - Khalifa or Khilafah. What comes First?
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