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    Woh Harf-e-Raaz Ke Mujh Ko Sikha Gya Hai Junoon
    Khuda Mujhe Nafs-e-Jibraeel De To Kahon

    The breath of Gabriel if God on me bestow,
    I may in words express what Love has made me know

    Sitara Kya Meri Taqdeer Ki Khabar Dey Ga
    Woh Khud Farakhi-e-Aflaak Mein Hai Khwaar-o-Zaboon

    How can the stars foretell what future holds in store?
    They roam perplex’d and mean in skies that have no shore

    Hayat Kya Hai, Khiyal-o-Nazar Ki Majzoobi
    Khudi Ki Mout Hai Andesha Ha’ay Goonagoon

    o fix one’s mind and gaze on goal is life, in fact:
    To ego’s death to lead the thoughts that mind distract

    Ajab Maza Hai, Mujhe Lazzat-e-Khudi De Kar
    Woh Chahte Hain Ke Main Apne App Mein Na Rahon

    How strange! The bliss of self having bestowed on me,
    God mighty will that I beside myself should be

    Zameer-e-Paak-o-Nigah-e-Buland-o-Masti-e-Shauq
    Na Maal-o-Doulat-e-Qaroon, Na Fikar-e-Aflatoon

    Clean conscience, lofty gaze and zeal is all I hold.
    I neither like nor claim Plato’s thought or Croesus’ gold

    Sabaq Mila Hai Ye Miraaj-E-Mustafa (SAW) Se Mujhe
    Ke Alam-e-Bashriat Ki Zadd Mein Hai Gardoon

    By Holy Prophet (SAW) Ascent this truth to me was taught,
    Within the reach of man high heavens can be brought

    Ye Kainat Abhi Na-Tamam Hai Shaid
    Ke Aa Rahi Hai Damadam Sada’ay ‘Kun Fayakoon’

    The Life perhaps is still raw and incomplete:
    Be and it becomes e’er doth a voice repeat

    Elaj Atish-E-Rumi Ke Soz Mein Hai Tera
    Teri Khirad Pe Hai Ghalib Farangion Ka Fasoon

    The West hath cast a spell on thine heart and mind:
    In Rumi’s burning flame a cure for thyself find

    Ussi Ke Faiz Se Meri Nigah Hai Roshan
    Ussi Ke Faiz Se Mere Saboo Mein Hai Jehoon

    Through his bounty great my vision shines and glows,
    And mighty Oxus too in my pitcher flows

    ارنی" میں بھی کہ رہا ہوں مگر"
    یہ حدیث کلیم و طور نہیں

    "Show unto me" though I too cry,
    It is not tale of Moses(AS) and Sinai.




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    Who was Allama Iqbal?-Shaykh Tariq Jameel(D.B)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhKJ...ture=g-all-pls
    Yet another sinner surviving on Ar Rahman's rahm, Ar Rauf's affection, Al Hadi's guidance, Al Ghafoor's forgiveness, Ar Razzaq's rizq and Al Qawi's strength.


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    Default Re: Allama Iqbal

    Quote Originally Posted by syamuj View Post
    Who was Allama Iqbal?-Shaykh Tariq Jameel(D.B)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhKJ...ture=g-all-pls
    As Allama Iqbal said about himself

    Iqbal Bhi ‘Iqbal’ Se Agah Nahin Hai
    Kuch Iss Mein Tamaskhar Nahin Wallah Nahin Hai

    ارنی" میں بھی کہ رہا ہوں مگر"
    یہ حدیث کلیم و طور نہیں

    "Show unto me" though I too cry,
    It is not tale of Moses(AS) and Sinai.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastam View Post
    As Allama Iqbal said about himself

    Iqbal Bhi ‘Iqbal’ Se Agah Nahin Hai
    Kuch Iss Mein Tamaskhar Nahin Wallah Nahin Hai
    Meaning?
    Yet another sinner surviving on Ar Rahman's rahm, Ar Rauf's affection, Al Hadi's guidance, Al Ghafoor's forgiveness, Ar Razzaq's rizq and Al Qawi's strength.


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    Quote Originally Posted by syamuj View Post
    Meaning?
    Even Iqbal does not fathom Iqbal
    No jest intended, none by God!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maripat View Post
    Even Iqbal does not fathom Iqbal
    No jest intended, none by God!
    Wow!!!That's Allama Iqbal.
    Yet another sinner surviving on Ar Rahman's rahm, Ar Rauf's affection, Al Hadi's guidance, Al Ghafoor's forgiveness, Ar Razzaq's rizq and Al Qawi's strength.


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    Can brothers from east who have taken iqbal studies please explain falsafa of khudi?

    Most generous of mankind, I have no one to take refuge in,
    Except you at the occurrence of widespread calamity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FususAlHikam View Post
    Can brothers from east who have taken iqbal studies please explain falsafa of khudi?
    I am exempted for I have not taken Iqbal studies.
    I have heard that he did not develop the concept to its full bloom so it remains as a half-baked philosophy.
    For the rest of the people, for whom the concept is already unfathomable, Sir Muhammed Iqbal is already poet-philosopher.
    Of course half-bakedness should not be a serious handicap in the world of philosophy - there is lot of room for obfuscation in that land. For example philosophy of existentialism is like that. West was occupied with that for two third of the last century but the fact remains that the concept is still half-baked. If you can not explain the concept theoretically then you resort to quotations from literature and if literature does not lead you to a conclusion you say that let us leave the definition to the experts.
    But, philosophy being most unproductive of disciplines, should we really bother?
    Particularly when we have Imam Ghazali (RA)'s sword on it.
    My personal inclination is that we should try to save our precious time from getting consumed by matters philosophical.
    Just see how Dr Atif is still struggling to shake of Ibn-e-Arabi - in spite of the fact that he has studied Fusus-al-Hikam with a Shaikh.

    In its rudimentary form Khudi is complementarity to God. Now that is problematic. So why bother?
    God created the world but man created the rest of the wonders. Sir Iqbal averred.
    Sorry sir but this ability to create itself is God given - no complementarity here.
    There is complementarity between man and woman but that is a different matter.

    Allah (SWT) gave free will to us humans and he has thorough control over it - even now.
    Last Verses of Surah Takweer are useful here also:

    It is not except a reminder to the worlds

    For whoever wills among you to take a right course.

    And you do not will except that Allah wills - Lord of the worlds.
    Allama Iqbal erred in this respect - as if the free will bestowed by Allah (SWT) rises to the level that it complements Allah (SWT). We seek protection from our Lord Most High from such insinuations.


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    نقطہ نوری کہ نام او خودی است
    زیر خاک ماشرار زندگی است

    از محبت می شود پائندہ تر
    زندہ تر، سو زندہ ، تابندہ تر

    از محبت اشتعال جوہرش
    ارتقاۓ ممکنات مضمرش

    فطرت او آتش اندوزد زعشق
    عالم افروزی بیا موزدز عشق

    عشق را از تیغ و خنجر باک نیست
    اصل عشق از آب و باد و خاک نیست

    ازنگاہ عشق خاراشق بود
    عشق حق آخر سراپا حق بود

    عاشقی آموز و محبوبے طلب
    چشم نوحے قلب ایوبے طلب

    ارنی" میں بھی کہ رہا ہوں مگر"
    یہ حدیث کلیم و طور نہیں

    "Show unto me" though I too cry,
    It is not tale of Moses(AS) and Sinai.




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