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    Is it aloud to make wudhu with a bucket, thus in begin of wudhu you wash the hands without putting the hands in the water in the bucket, and thereafter you take water by putting hand in the bucket for washing face, mouth, nose, hands+arms wiping head, ear, neck, and washing feet.

    Thus each time one will stack the hand in the bucket used water will mengle with the water in the bucket.

    Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullâh) said: "Stick to the narrations and the way of the salaf, and beware of the newly invented matters for all of it is innovation" (Sawnul Muntaq of as-Suyuti pg.32)


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    Used water is not impure. So there's nothing wrong with the wudhu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakibbhat View Post
    Used water is not impure. So there's nothing wrong with the wudhu.
    But used water does not clean ? If used water immerse with pure water, does the pure water becomes used also ?
    Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullâh) said: "Stick to the narrations and the way of the salaf, and beware of the newly invented matters for all of it is innovation" (Sawnul Muntaq of as-Suyuti pg.32)


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    Brother the water used in the wudu remains pure.So it would make anything impure. It is infact sunna to drink the water left in the vessel after wudu.
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    Used water is pure but not purifying. So you can drink it but you can’t use it for wudhu & ghusal.

    When using the bucket the only time you need worry about the water becoming musta’mal is at the point of washing the arms. So when you scoop the water your intention should be to scoop & not for washing the arms. If you dip your hand in with the intention of washing the arm then the water would become musta’mal & you can’t use it any more. But if your intention is just to scoop then the water remains pure & purifying.

    Using the bucket is best in terms of sunnah, some scholars have mentioned that the use of taps are makruh


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    Used water is impure according to Abu Hanifa (ghaliza) and Abu Yusuf (khafifa), and only pure (but not mutahhir) according to Muhammad.

    So would it be correct to say that according to these 2 above Imams, water from a bucket would become impure if water from the washed body parts falls in the bucket?
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    In the Name of Allāh, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.



    As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa-rahmatullāhi wa-barakātuh.



    When a person washes a limb during wudhu, such as the face for example, one will cup his or her hands to contain the water. In this cupped position, the water will be rubbed onto the face. The water that drips forth from the face will be considered used (musta’mal). The wetness on the hand after rubbing the face will not be considered used. Water will be considered used as soon as it separates from the limb being washed. It is for this reason that the jurists have mentioned that if a person wipes his or her hand on a limb that was previously washed; the water that comes on the hand from the limb will then be considered used. Thus, the water left on ones hand after rubbing a limb will be purifying. However, it will not suffice to use such water to wash another limb in wudhu as there are other conditions of washing one’s limbs for wudhu which have to be met.



    وهو لغة إمرار اليد على الشيء وشرعا إصابة اليد المبتلة العضو ولو بعد غسل عضو لا مسحه ولا ببلل أخذ من عضو



    قوله ( ولا ببلل أخذ من عضو ) لأنه يشترط في صحة المسح أن لا يكون البلل مستعملا ولما أخذت البلة من العضو صارت مستعملة بالإنفصال

    (مراقي الفلاح مع حاشية الطحطاوي عليه ص 60 , العلمية)



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    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...e091b283f0bbca
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    Default Re: wudhu with a bucket

    Quote Originally Posted by Ansari View Post
    Used water is impure according to Abu Hanifa (ghaliza) and Abu Yusuf (khafifa), and only pure (but not mutahhir) according to Muhammad.

    So would it be correct to say that according to these 2 above Imams, water from a bucket would become impure if water from the washed body parts falls in the bucket?
    ok little off topic. what would you say about the one who does not dry himself after wudhu & leaves a wet mark on the carpet of the masjid since the the water becomes impure after leaving the limbs of wudhu?


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    Masha Allah ,

    I got so much from ur post Mufti sab

    By the way do u know Mufti kamalur- Rahman ( hyderabad - INDIA)


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    Default Re: wudhu with a bucket

    There is no clear answer on my question so far, despite being my question so easy. When one does wudhu with a bucket no matter what there will always fall drops water from the hands etc in the bucket with pure water when taking water from the bucket. Now since drop off's are mustamal water, what quantity of mustamal water does render the bucket mustamal and thus not suitable anymore for making wudhu since it will be not purifying.
    Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullâh) said: "Stick to the narrations and the way of the salaf, and beware of the newly invented matters for all of it is innovation" (Sawnul Muntaq of as-Suyuti pg.32)


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