Bashariyyah of the Messenger of Allah

[Saad]

Bashariyyah of the Holy Messenger

By Hakim al-Ummah Mawlana Ashraf ‘Ali Thanawi
Translated by Shaykh Muhammadullah Khalili Qasmi

[Heading] It is disbelief (kufr) to say that the Holy Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) was a human being in his outward appearance but not in his reality (haqiqah).

Question: That [certain] preacher also said that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was human being (bashar) in his outward appearance, but in reality he was not a human being. He also said that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) is hadhir nadhir at all times and sees everything. You are requested to render solution of these matters with your guiding attention that the heart can be contented and satisfied.

Answer: Those who claim [1] [these issues] to be right are responsible to answer the two matters, as the claimant is sought to establish evidence; otherwise the first claim is disbelief (kufr) and the second is polytheism (shirk). 20 Shawwal 1346.
(Imdad al-Fatawa, 5:225)

Footnotes:

Ahmad Rida Khan, the founder of the Barelwi sect, writes in the translation of the verse ‘qul in-nama ana basharun mithlukum’, “Say, in my outer (dhahiri) human appearance, I am just like you.” (Kanz al-Iman, p.486)

The famous Barelwi scholar and debater, Muhammad ‘Umar Icharwi, wrote a book, Miqyas Nur, to prove that the reality (haqiqah) of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and grant him peace) was light (nur) while his outward appearance was human (bashari). He writes on p.24, “This verse establishes that the reality (haqiqah) of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was not human (bashari), rather his haqiqah was nuri …” He further writes on p.73, “It becomes evident from these hadiths that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was a superior nur and the moon was a nur of a lesser degree. The superior nur split the lesser nur into pieces. This power of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) is contradictory [at odds] with haqiqah bashariyyah and thus proves that the haqiqah of the Messenger was not bashari but it was pure nur.” And he writes on p.90, “Allah Most High described in this verse the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) as pure nur, which proves that he is in reality a nur and only has human attributes.”

http://barelwism.wordpress.com/2011/...nger-of-allah/

[Ahmad_shakeel]

salam,
can u post scan from maulana thanwi.

[Saad]

salam,
can u post scan from maulana thanwi.

[Talhah]

Jazakallah Sa'ad Bhai

[Saad]

Assalam o 'alaykum,

Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi Mujaddid Alf al-Thani (d. 1034H) states: "O brother, Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace), in spite of his lofty status, was a bashr characterized with mortality and transience.” (Maktubat, Letter 73, First Vol., p.177)

I.e. neither he was qadim and wajib (immortal and infinite) nor eternal and perpetual, rather he was a mortal human being.

Mujaddid says at another place: "Do not you see that the prophets (may peace be upon them) are equal to other people in being bashr and all are equivalent as per their haqiqah and person (dhat). Yes, they are superior in status as per their perfect attributes. (Maktubat, First Vol, part 4, p.128)

At another place, he writes: "However, there is a status of prophethood which cannot be accessed by an angel. The status was obtained due to the element of soil, so this is characteristic to human being." (Maktubat, First Vol. Part 4, p.123)

http://www.4shared.com/document/9wdi...r__Bashar.html

[SeekerOfGuidance]

Assalam o 'alaykum,

Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi Mujaddid Alf al-Thani (d. 1034H) states: "O brother, Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace), in spite of his lofty status, was a bashr characterized with mortality and transience.” (Maktubat, Letter 73, First Vol., p.177)

I.e. neither he was qadim and wajib (immortal and infinite) nor eternal and perpetual, rather he was a mortal human being. Mujaddid says at another place: "Do not you see that the prophets (may peace be upon them) are equal to other people in being bashr and all are equivalent as per their haqiqah and person (dhat). Yes, they were high in status as per their perfect attributes. (Maktubat, First Vol, part 4, p.128)

At another place, he writes: "However, there is a status of prophethood which cannot be accessed by an angel. The status was obtained due to the element of soil, so this is characteristic to human being." (Maktubat, First Vol. Part 4, p.123)

http://www.4shared.com/document/9wdi...r__Bashar.html

Are the above from the new English translation of the Maktubaat?

[Saad]

Are the above from the new English translation of the Maktubaat?

Assalam o 'alaykum,

No it was translated from Persian and Urdu. Which translation are you referring to?

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Asalamu Aleikum , should we reject following hadiths and Ayats ?



"O people of the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger, revealing to you much that ye used to hide in the Book, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary). There hath come to you from Allah a (new) light and a perspicuous Book (Qur’an 5:15).

Imam Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti on This Verse:

هو النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم

Translation: It is the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)" (Tafsir al-Jalalayn, 139).



Arbaz Bin Sariyah (ra) narrated that the Sahaba asked (about reality of Prophet). The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said: I am the prayer of Ibrahim (Peace Be Upon Him) and Esa (Peace Be Upon Him) gave glad tiding of my arrival to his nation. My mother saw such a Light (Nur) coming out from her body that it lit the castles of Syria

Reference

►Bayhaqi, Dala’il un Nubuwwah, Volume 001, Page No. 83
►Imam Ibn Kathir (rah) narrated it in his Tafsir (4:360).

►It is also narrated by al-Hakim in his Mustadrak (2:616-617)

►Ahmad in his Musnad (4:184)



It is narrated by Imam Abdur Razaq from Mua'mar, from Ibn al-Manqadr, from Jabir ibn `Abd Allah who said to the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) : "O Messenger of Allah (Peace Be Upon Him), may my father and mother be sacrificed for you, tell me of the first thing Allah created before all things." He (Peace Be Upon Him) said: "O Jabir, the first thing Allah created was the light of your Prophet from His (created) light, and that light remained (lit. "turned") in the midst of His Power for as long as He wished, and there was not, at that time, a Tablet or a Pen or a Paradise or a Fire or an angel or a heaven or an earth. And when Allah wished to create creation, he divided that Light into four parts and from the first made the Pen, from the second the Tablet, from the third the Throne, [and from the fourth everything else]......."

References
►Musannaf Abdur Razaq, al-Juz al-Mafqud min al-Juz al-Awwal min al-Musannaf Abdur Razaq, Page No. 99, Hadith Number 18

►Qastalani in Mawahib ul Laduniyah Volume 001, Page No. 71,
►Zurqani in Sharah Mawahib ul Laduniyah Volume 001, Page No. 89-91,
►Ajluni in Kashf al-Khafa (وقال : رواه عبد الرزاق بسنده عن جابر بن عبد اﷲ رضي اﷲ عنهما) Volume 001, Page No. 311, Hadith Number 827,
►Halabi in his Sirah Volume 001, Page No. 50,
►Ashraf Ali Thanvi in Nashar ut-Tib Volume 001, Page No. 13




Ibn Abbas (ra) said that the spirit of the Prophet was a light in the hands of Allah two thousand years before he created Adam. That light glorified Him and the angels glorified by his glorification. When Allah created Adam, He casted that light into his loins. The Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) then said: “Allah brought me down to earth in the loins of Adam (a.s), placed me in the loins of Nuh (a.s) and then cast me into the loins of Ibrahim (a.s). Allah continued to move me from noble loins and pure wombs until he brought me out from my parents. None of them were ever joined together in fornication

Reference

►Qadhi Iyaad in Ash-Shifa bi Tarif al Haquq al Mustafa, Page No. 43


Ibn Abbas (R.A) narrates that Allah inspired Isa (A.S) saying O Isa, believe in Muhammad (صلى الله عليهوسلم), and whosoever form your Ummah finds him should believe in him, If I had not created Muhammad (صلى اللهعليه وسلم) then I would not have created Adam, If not for him I would not have created the paradise and hell, When I made the throne on Water, it started to shake, I wrote La Ilaha Il Allah Muhammad ur Rasul Ullah, due to which it became still

Reference
►Imam Hakim in Mustadrak ala Sahihayn, Volume No. 2, Page No. 609, Hadith No. 4227
Imam Hakim after narrating it said:

هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد

This Hadith has Sahih chain.



Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti (Rahimuhullah)


Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti (Rahimuhullah) said: Ibn Sabih (R.A) said that the shadow of Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) did not fall on ground , because the "PROPHET WAS NUR"

Reference
►Al Khasais ul Kubra of Imam Suyuti, Volume No. 1, Page No. 169



Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahimuhullah)

Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahimuhullah) said: You are the Nur from which even the moon of 14th night receives light, and from your Nur is the sun shinning

Reference

►Qasida al Nauman, Page No. 23 "



Mullah Ali Qari (Rahimuhullah)

Mullah Ali Qari (Rehmat'Ullah Alaih) said:The heart of Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم), his body is completely Nur

Reference

►Sharah ash-Shifa, Hashiya Naseem ur Riyaaz


Sheikh Abdul Qadir al Jilani (Rahimuhullah) said in his book Sirr-al-Asrar:


سر الأسرار إلى عبد القادر الجيلاني ، معي الآن مقطع منه فيما يتعلق بهذه الفقرة، يقول: ' اعلم وفقك الله لما يحب ويرضى، لقد خلق الله تعالى روح محمد صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أولاً: من نوره وجماله،

Allah created the Ruh of Muhammad (Peace be upon him) from his Nur of beauty [Al-Sirr al Israr]




SO MANY WELL KNOWN SCHOLARS AND SO MANY HADITHS ON NOOR OF SAYADNA MOHAMMAD (s) SHOULD WE REJECT THEM ALL EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE SAHIH ISNAD ?

[Saad]

Asalamu Aleikum , should we reject following hadiths and Ayats ?


It is narrated by Imam Abdur Razaq from Mua'mar, from Ibn al-Manqadr, from Jabir ibn `Abd Allah who said to the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) : "O Messenger of Allah (Peace Be Upon Him), may my father and mother be sacrificed for you, tell me of the first thing Allah created before all things." He (Peace Be Upon Him) said: "O Jabir, the first thing Allah created was the light of your Prophet from His (created) light, and that light remained (lit. "turned") in the midst of His Power for as long as He wished, and there was not, at that time, a Tablet or a Pen or a Paradise or a Fire or an angel or a heaven or an earth. And when Allah wished to create creation, he divided that Light into four parts and from the first made the Pen, from the second the Tablet, from the third the Throne, [and from the fourth everything else]......."

References
►Musannaf Abdur Razaq, al-Juz al-Mafqud min al-Juz al-Awwal min al-Musannaf Abdur Razaq, Page No. 99, Hadith Number 18

►Qastalani in Mawahib ul Laduniyah Volume 001, Page No. 71,
►Zurqani in Sharah Mawahib ul Laduniyah Volume 001, Page No. 89-91,
►Ajluni in Kashf al-Khafa (وقال : رواه عبد الرزاق بسنده عن جابر بن عبد اﷲ رضي اﷲ عنهما) Volume 001, Page No. 311, Hadith Number 827,
►Halabi in his Sirah Volume 001, Page No. 50,
►Ashraf Ali Thanvi in Nashar ut-Tib Volume 001, Page No. 13

Assalam o 'alaykum,

This hadith is a fabrication.

It is the same oft-quoted hadith of Hadrat Jabir , which nobody has managed to produce a sanad for and which has been classified as fabricated by a number of muhaddithin.

Continue looking at it all you wish, a hadith without a sanad is not a weak hadith, it is a BASELESS one.

Now, to clarify this issue for the benefit of the others, who are interested in seeking the truth:
There is absolutely no sign of this narration, in any book of hadith.
Someone mistakenly attributed it to Abd ar-Razzak and others followed suit, all relying on the first one, thinking that he must have seen it in there.
This is why one will find many senior Ulama of the last few centuries attributing it to Abd ar-Razzak. Most of them took it from Sharh al-Mawahib, who incorrectly referenced it. None of these Ulama had copies of the Musannaf of Abd ar-Razzak, to properly ascertain its existence, neither did any of them ever mention a sanad (chain) for it.

Seeing this widespread mis-attribution, a few letter-day muhadithin - who went through the musannaf and confirmed its non-existence- had classified it as fabricated, as it quite clear when ones sees the wording of the hadith and adds this to the fact that there is no known sanad for it.
The Ghumari brothers, Ahmed and Abd Allah, are two who classified it as fabricated, with Abd Allah writing a booklet to prove its fabrication, titled "Murshid al-Ha'ir".

From the great Huffadh, Allamah Suyuti has mentioned that there is no sanad that could be relied upon, for this narration.

Those whose most crucial and necessary aqidah is that Nabi is present in every atom of this world, thus viewing all that is taking place, would of course never accept it as a fabrication.

And Allah Ta'ala knows best

Discussed here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Allah-created

Also read this post: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post307058

Asalamu Aleikum , should we reject following hadiths and Ayats ?


Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahimuhullah)

Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahimuhullah) said: You are the Nur from which even the moon of 14th night receives light, and from your Nur is the sun shinning

Reference ►Qasida al Nauman, Page No. 23 "

This is also a fabrication as mentioned by 'Allamah Sarafarz Khan Safdar and Mufti Husain Kadodia.

SO MANY WELL KNOWN SCHOLARS AND SO MANY HADITHS ON NOOR OF SAYADNA MOHAMMAD (s) SHOULD WE REJECT THEM ALL EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE SAHIH ISNAD ?

'Allamah 'Abd al-Hayy al-Lakhnawi writes,

"From them is what they mention at the commemoration of the Prophetic birth that the light of Muhammad (Allah bless him and grant him peace) was created from the light of Allah in the sense that His Holy Essence became a substance for his illuminated soul, and that He (Exalted is He) took a handful of His light and created from it his light. This is sophistic talk since the essence of our Lord (Glorified and Blessed is He) is transcendent beyond being a substance of [any] besides Him. Taking a handful of His light does not mean that a part of him was cut off and made into the light of His Prophet because the concomitant of that is divisibility (tajazzi) and other things that follow from that in His essence (Exalted is Him), Transcendent is Allah beyond that. That which brought them into this dark quandary is the outward [meaning] of the narration of ‘Abd al-Razzaq in his Musannaf from Jabir [that] he said: I said “O Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and grant him peace)! My father and mother be sacrificed for you! Tell me of the first thing Allah created before all things.” He said, “O Jabir! Verily, Allah created the light of your Prophet from His light before all things, and He made that light turn by [His] Power wherever Allah wished, and at that time there was no Tablet and no Pen, no Garden and no Fire, no Angel and no Heaven, no earth and no sun and no moon, no jinni and no man.” The hadith is mentioned in its entirety in al-Mawahib al-Ludaniyyah and other [works].

They erred in understanding the Prophetic meaning and they do not know that the ascription (idafah) in his statement “from His light” is like the ascription in His (Exalted is He) statement in the story of the creation of Adam, “I breathed into him of My spirit” (15:29) and like His statement in the story of our master ‘Isa “a spirit from Him” (4:171) and like their statement, “The house of Allah” for the Ka’bah and mosques, and their statement, “The spirit of Allah” for ‘Isa, etc. Al-Zurqani said in Sharh al-Mawahib in the commentary of his statement, “from His light”:

[This is] an ascription of ennoblement (idafat al-tashrif) and to notify that he is a wonderful creation and that he has a rank which has a certain relationship with the esteemed lordship according to the meaning of His (Exalted is He) statement “and He breathed into him from His spirit.” This is a rhetorical (bayaniyyah) [sentence], meaning: “from the light of His essence”, not in the sense that it is a substance for the creation of his light, rather in the sense of the [Divine] Will pertained to it without the mediation of anything when bringing it into existence. End.

He also said some pages before this:

As for what is mentioned that Allah took a handful of the light of His Face and cast a look at it so it perspired and dropped, so Allah created out of every drop a prophet, and that the handful was the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) and he was like a brilliant star, and that the entire world was created out of it and he was existent before his parents were created and he memorised the Qur’an before Jibril came to him and things like these, Hafiz Abu l-’Abbas Ahmad ibn Taymiyah said in his Fatawa and Hafiz ibn Kathir quoted it in his Tarikh and agreed with him that all these things are fabricated lies about his speech by agreement of the people of knowledge. End

Note:

The primacy and the definite priority of the creation of the Muhammadan light are established in the narration of ‘Abd al-Razzaq. The hadith, “The first of what Allah created is my light” is famous amongst the story-tellers, although it is a hadith not established in this form, even though other [narrations] were narrated that agree with it in meaning. Al-Suyuti said in his commentary on Jami’ al-Tirmidhi called Qut al-Mughtadhi when commenting on the hadith, “Verily the first that Allah created is the Pen”:

Zayn al-’Arab said in Sharh al-Masabih: “This hadith is contradicted by that which was narrated that ‘the first that Allah created was the Intellect’, and ‘the first that Allah created was my light’, and ‘the first that Allah created was the Spirit’, and ‘the first that Allah created was the Throne.’ Its response is that the primacy of things is relative, so it is understood that each of what was mentioned was first in its [own] genus. Hence, the pen was created before all bodies, his (upon him blessings and peace) light was created before all lights, and the hadith of the Intellect is understood as the first that Allah created of subtle bodies is the Intellect, and from the dense [bodies] is the Throne, so there is no contradiction between any of them.” [Here] ends the statement of Zayn al-’Arab. I say: the hadith of Intellect is fabricated and the other three were not narrated with this wording so the interpretation is dispensable.

I say: similar to “the first that Allah created is my light” in not being established textually but having been transmitted in meaning, is that which is famous on the tongues of the story-tellers and the general and the elite of the hadith, “Were it not for you, I would not have created the celestial bodies”. ‘Ali al-Qari said in Tadhkirat al-Mawdu’at:

[Regarding] the hadith, “Were it not for you, I would not have created the celestial bodies,” al-’Asqalani said, “[It is] mawdu‘”, as [mentioned] in al-Khulasah. However, its meaning is correct, since al-Daylami narrated from Ibn ‘Abbas in marfu’ form: Jibril came to me and said: Allah said, “O Muhammad! Were it not for you, I would not have created the Garden and were it not for you I would not have created the Fire.” End

Al-Qastallani mentioned in al-Mawahib al-Laduniya and al-Zurqani in its commentary that al-Hakim transmitted in his Mustadrak from ‘Umar in marfu’ form that Adam saw the name “Muhammad” written on the throne and Allah said to Adam, “Were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created you.” Abu l-Shaykh in Tabaqat al-Asfahaniyyin and al-Hakim narrated from Ibn ‘Abbas: Allah revealed to ‘Isa, “Believe in Muhammad and command your people to believe in him for were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created Adam or the Garden or the Fire and indeed I created the Throne on water and it shook, so I wrote on it: ‘No deity but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.’” ‘Amr ibn Aws is in its sanad and he is unknown. Al-Dhahabi said: According to al-Daylami from Ibn ‘Abbas who elevated it [to the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace)], “Jibril came to me and said: Indeed Allah says ‘Were it not for you, I would not create the Garden and were it not for you, I would not create the Fire.’”

Similar [is the narration] that has become famous on the tongues of story-tellers of the hadith, “I was a Prophet while Adam was between water and clay” and in a narration, “I was a Prophet and there was no Adam, no water and no clay,” because al-Sakhawi in al-Maqasid al-Hasanah, while explaining many of the hadiths which are common on the tongues, and al-Suyuti in al-Durar al-Muntashirah fi l-Akhbar al-Mushtahirah and others clarified that it is mawdu’ with this wording. Yes, it is established from al-Hakim in his Mustadrak and authenticated by Abu Nu’aym in Hilyat al-Awliya’ and al-Bukhari in his Tarikh and Ahmad in his Musnad from Maysarah al-Dabbi: I said, “O Messenger of Allah! When were you a Prophet?” He said, “While Adam was between spirit and body.” According to al-Bayhaqi and Ahmad, [they narrated] from the hadith of al-’Irbad ibn Sariyah in marfu’ form, “Verily I was the Seal of the Prophets by Allah while Adam was still in clay” and according to al-Tirmidhi, [he narrated] from Abu Hurayrah that they [i.e. the Companions] said, “O Messenger of Allah! When was prophethood incumbent upon you?” He said, “While Adam was between spirit and body.”

From them is what the preachers mention while commemorating the Muhammadan beauty that one night a needle dropped from the hand of ‘A’ishah and she lost it, and she searched for it and could not find it, so the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) laughed and the radiance of his teeth appeared, illuminating the chamber, and ‘A’ishah saw the needle with that light. Although this is mentioned in Ma’arij al-Nubuwwah and other biographical works that combine both wet and dry [i.e. sound and unsound reports] so none relies on everything that is in them besides a sleepy or drowsy person, it is, nonetheless, not established by narration or meaning."

http://www.deoband.org/2010/08/hadit...ant-him-peace/

Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti (Rahimuhullah)


Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti (Rahimuhullah) said: Ibn Sabih (R.A) said that the shadow of Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) did not fall on ground , because the "PROPHET WAS NUR"

Reference
►Al Khasais ul Kubra of Imam Suyuti, Volume No. 1, Page No. 169

Regarding the Shadow of the Messenger

http://www.deoband.org/2009/08/hadit...the-messenger/

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