Qadiyanis/Ahmaddiya?

[a.s.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Muslim_Community
http://aaiil.org/text/questionsanswe...dimuslim.shtml

Are these people even real Muslims? They believe in all the books the mainstream Muslims believe, and they belief in all six pillars of faith, yet they do not believe Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to be the final messenger. Isn't this kufr?

[Quandary]

short answer: Yes, this is kufr.
Long answer: http://www.thecult.info/

[mh16388]

aoa,

can someone tell me exactly how to 'permanently' change the ahmadi pages (inculing those of their famous notables) to depict their correct status as kafir?almost all of them list themselves as muslims.

[mh16388]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Muslim_Community
http://aaiil.org/text/questionsanswe...dimuslim.shtml

Are these people even real Muslims? They believe in all the books the mainstream Muslims believe, and they belief in all six pillars of faith, yet they do not believe Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to be the final messenger. Isn't this kufr?

aoa,

finality of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is one of the six things that divide muslims and non-muslims. so no matter what they say about themselves they are kafir and out of islam. they are in the category of zindeeq

[Baira]

We believe in all six pillars of faith, follow what the Holy Prophet (pbuh) did and said, we don't kill others because of their believes and we don't judge others.

Well I'm here to expand my knowledge and to find some answers, which could help me

[abdulwahhab]

We believe in all six pillars of faith, follow what the Holy Prophet (pbuh) did and said, we don't kill others because of their believes and we don't judge others.

Well I'm here to expand my knowledge and to find some answers, which could help me

If you're Qadiani, then you deny at least two pillars of faith:

1. You reject the Qur'an when it says that Isa was raised up and did not die and you deny the finality of prophethood.
2. You reject Rasoolullah and his sayings that there is no prophet after him as well as his description of 'Isa and his return.

Also, trying to suggest that judging others is somehow negative is contrary to Islam because Allah has given us the Qur'an and the Sunnah as tools to better ourselves and to separate haqq from baatil (i.e. JUDGE between good and evil). The Qadiani are far from haqq and are on pure baatil and kufr.

To Muslims:



Please do not refer to the Qadiani as "Ahmadiyya" since that is defaming the beautiful name of Rasoolullah "Ahmad".

[wellwisher]

@Baira

Do you believe in the hadeeth books of mainstream muslims. Like Sahi Bukhari and Sahi Muslim, etc?

And do you believe that Prophet Muhammad(Saw) was last prophet?

[Acacia]

To Muslims:



Please do not refer to the Qadiani as "Ahmadiyya" since that is defaming the beautiful name of Rasoolullah "Ahmad".

Good point. Not sure if I can request this here or if the OP needs to make the request but: Can the moderators please rename the thread?

[Baira]

If you're Qadiani, then you deny at least two pillars of faith:

1. You reject the Qur'an when it says that Isa was raised up and did not die and you deny the finality of prophethood.
2. You reject Rasoolullah and his sayings that there is no prophet after him as well as his description of 'Isa and his return.

Also, trying to suggest that judging others is somehow negative is contrary to Islam because Allah has given us the Qur'an and the Sunnah as tools to better ourselves and to separate haqq from baatil (i.e. JUDGE between good and evil). The Qadiani are far from haqq and are on pure baatil and kufr.

To Muslims:



Please do not refer to the Qadiani as "Ahmadiyya" since that is defaming the beautiful name of Rasoolullah "Ahmad".

Okay, but do Sunnis follow the Holy Quran if they kill Ahmadis because of their believes? Since the Quran says:"There is no compulsion in religion."
Does the Holy Prophet (pbuh) treated his enemies like this?

I'm not saying that Ahmadis are right/wrong, just trying to expand my knowledge and find the right way. And not just to believe in sth. because of my parents or because I was born into this religion.
But thank you for your reply...

[UntoldTruth]

We believe in all six pillars of faith, follow what the Holy Prophet (pbuh) did and said, we don't kill others because of their believes and we don't judge others.

Well I'm here to expand my knowledge and to find some answers, which could help me

My sunni brothers and sisters are quite mean.. you will never get a warm welcome from most of them...

While I am sunni... I do consider you a muslim but I reject the claim that Ahmad was the Christ and Al Mahdi... But I do have a question... Do the Ahmadiyya have a spiritual path, like Sufism???