Qadiyanis/Ahmaddiya?

[wellwisher]

So will he be a prophet or just an Ummati of the Holy Prophet saw?

لا مهدي إلا عيس - There is no Mahdi except ‘Isa. [Sunah Ibn Maja. 35.24]

Yes.

And the hadeeth is weak.

Praise be to Allaah.

This hadeeth was narrated by Ibn Maajah in his Sunan (4039).

Almost all the muhadditheen (hadeeth scholars) are agreed that this hadeeth is da’eef (weak)”

It was classed as da’eef by al-Bayhaqi, al-Haakim, Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah in Manhaaj al-Sunnah (8/256), and Ibn al-Qayyim in al-Manaar al-Muneef (p. 148).

Al-Dhahabi said in Meezaan al-I’tidal (3/535): it is a munkar report.

Al-Qaari said in Mirqaat al-Mafaateeh (10/183): it is da’eef according to the consensus of the muhadditheen.

It was mentioned by al-Shawkaani in al-Qawaa’id al-Majmoo’ah, 127. He said: al-San’aani said: (it is) mawdoo’ (fabricated).

Al-Albaani said in Silsilat al-Ahaadeeth al-Da’eefah (77): It is munkar.

Even if this hadeeth were saheeh – but it is not saheeh – the meaning would be that there is no one who perfectly guided (mahdi) or protected from sin and error except ‘Eesa ibn Maryam. This was stated by al-Qurtubi, Ibn al-Qayyim and Ibn Katheer.

This does not contradict the fact that the Mahdi will emerge at the end of time and that he will join forces with ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him), and ‘Eesa will pray behind him in congregation.

We have already stated in the answer to question no. 1252 the evidence showing that the Mahdi will emerge at the end of time with the attributes that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) described. These saheeh ahaadeeth cannot be contradicted by a da’eef hadeeth like this one.

See al-Ahaadeeth al-Da’eefah, 1/89 by al-Albaani. Al-Mawsoo’ah fi Ahaadeeth al-Mahdi al-Da’eefah wa’l-Mawdoo’ah by al-Bastawi, p. 94-104.

[Baira]

search for the original, you may be shocked by some of the things that are written.

Maybe by the interpretations which Mullahs or others make...if you want to understand something wrong then you will understand it wrong or if you look to find something bad then you will, doesn't matter whether it is or not.

[Baira]

Yes.

Yes means?

[abdulwahhab]

Maybe by the interpretations which Mullahs or others make...if you want to understand something wrong then you will understand it wrong or if you look to find something bad then you will, doesn't matter whether it is or not.

Sorry, but how can you interpret vile things such as having intercourse with god any other way???

[Baira]

Sorry, but how can you interpret vile things such as having intercourse with god any other way???

See, that is what i mean. It's what your eyes want to read...

[abdulwahhab]

See, that is what i mean. It's what your eyes want to read...

Then please enlighten us with low intellects of how people of higher intellects like yourself understand these vile passages about having intercourse with God?

[a.s.]

Yes means?

Brother Wellwisher was answering your first question:
Yes, as in Isa (as) will be an ummati, not a Prophet. I have also stated this in a previous post and gave you a hadith proving it.

[byellow200]

Maybe by the interpretations which Mullahs or others make...if you want to understand something wrong then you will understand it wrong or if you look to find something bad then you will, doesn't matter whether it is or not.

This is why i ask you to read the original from beginning to end. Please at least read it. I humbly ask you to do so.

[Baira]

Also, brother IbnIsmail said something that you failed to respond to:

Rasoolullah made Takfir of Musailamah al Kadhab who was making the same claim as Mirza Ghulam Ahmed al Kadhab.

What do you have to say to this?

http://www.ahmadiyya-islam.org/is/is...litical-rebel/

[a.s.]

http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/engl...iyaniat/21.htm

Mirza is just a modern version of Musailimah al-kaddhab. He's a liar.