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    Default Re: Any X-Salafi?

    When i began practicing, i was impressed by a GM(Ghair Muqalid) brother, very learned, dedicated and unlike the fools we see today, therefore i followed him. Then a brother took me to Zar Wali Khan(db), and i sort of didnt like him to begin with :P. The same brother introduced me to the books of Ameen Safdar Okarvi(ar), which essentially helped me with the GM(ghair Muqalid) issue and Mufti Taqi Usmani's(db) Legal status of a Madhab, His book Authority of Sunnah helped me when i was deciding btw Orthodoxy and Quran Only earlier on. May Allah keep the Shade of Ulama upon our heads. Ameen. Alhamdulilah it has been an experience so far.


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    السلام عليكم
    I was drawn to Salafi ideology for a short while, coming from the Gulf region in the Middle East it is very difficult to escape it. I was put off by some aspects of Salafism and having no where to turn to i became
    secular in my practices and beliefs. Alhamdulilaah about two months ago i heard the Habaib, primarily Habib Ali Al-Jiffri's and Habib Omar Bin Hafiz's lectures, and i made Tawba. Before that my knowledge of
    mainstream Sunni "orthodoxy" was very limited, one of the pitfalls of being raised by a secular family. May Allah Bless us and all our families with taqwa and ihsan.
    This is my first post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taleb-AlIhsan View Post
    السلام عليكم
    I was drawn to Salafi ideology for a short while, coming from the Gulf region in the Middle East it is very difficult to escape it. I was put off by some aspects of Salafism and having no where to turn to i became
    secular in my practices and beliefs. Alhamdulilaah about two months ago i heard the Habaib, primarily Habib Ali Al-Jiffri's and Habib Omar Bin Hafiz's lectures, and i made Tawba. Before that my knowledge of
    mainstream Sunni "orthodoxy" was very limited, one of the pitfalls of being raised by a secular family. May Allah Bless us and all our families with taqwa and ihsan.
    This is my first post
    May Allah guide you to the straight path, keep you firm until your death and is pleased with you in the Hereafter. Ameen


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    By Mercy of Allah......I never been inspired from Salafies.....
    Even salafies Plus Ghair Muqalid try there best over me.....but I always talk with them with their 6 Numbers...
    1. Prove from Hadees
    2. Give sahi hadees.
    3. Show from Bhukhari
    4. Show me exact word in Bhukari
    5. Traslation is not enough..
    6. Im not satisfied


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    Default Re: Any X-Salafi?

    Its easy to find a Salafi.

    1. He will ask proof for everything from Quran & hadith
    2. If you give a proof in Hadith, he will tell " Its Weak , Its Weak, Its Weak"


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    Assalamu alaykum
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    from http://forums.*********************/...5/index19.html

    After being in Islam a short time, I was introduced into what was heavily marketed as the “pure and clear” way of ’salafiyyah’ in which all other Muslims must come to this way or be opposed at all costs. It was very appealing because what new Muslim wants anything but that? Things went well for a few years until the “purge” came (refered to in this series) and people were “on it” or “off it”. This was not the Islam that I had accepted and soon I began to realise that there were indeed deep problemsin this “manhaj”. Being a little stubborn, I was relentlessly boycotted for not renouncing the likes of Bilal Philips or Jamal Zarabozo - both of whom at the time I listened to.

    My own wife gave me horrible grief and my children were teased by their friends who were told by their salafi parents not to play with my children. My daughter was told by her friend “My Dad says that your Dad is a deviant“. Can you imagine the confusion this caused for the children on both sides? My ex-wife was ‘advised’ to destroy my property (my taped lectures and books). As you can imagine this fitnah destroyed whatever harmony that was in my home and she kept pressing for a Divorce because I would not submit to the purge. She wanted me to relent so that she and our children would not have to face the brunt of their boycott. Since I would not, she wanted a divorce. They even boycotted my small business and refused to buy from me. This was the most exhausting, draining period of my life as this woman would wake me up in the middle of the night after listening to some Pal Talk lecture to pick fights with me because she was angry that I’d fallen into “bidah” and “making her life miserable”. She would constantly nag me about what ”Sh. Rabee said” or ”Sh Ubaid said” or ”Sh Falih” or “Sh Fawzee al-Atharee” and other scholars. She would also undermind my authority in front of the children and call me a “mubtade” in front of them and attribute my “deviance” to any and all disagreements especially if I did not want to attend one of the salafi conferences. I could go on and on about how my life was going down the drain from this salaficultists bringing this fitnah into my home, but I will spare the details. To make a long story short, I had developed beliefs that clearly contradicted the ’salafi manhaj’. I believed that the idea that compassion and mercy are qualities that a Muslim should have and not the hate, anger, and ruthlessness I was witnessing with the salafis. I believed that if someone has a problem or misunderstanding that you do not ostracize and boycott them, but you respond with genuine concern for them and if they don’t want your support, mind your business, it’s personal. I found all of these things missing and even ridiculed as “descriptions of the deviants” in the salafi cult. I realized that I could not be a ’salafi’ and also keep my independent beliefs. I renounced ’salafiyyah’ after a lot of thinking and soul searching because this kind of “manhaj” just could not be from Allah

    Not long after that, my wife and I divorced as it was official that I was a ‘deviant’. I wanted to keep my family together, but she was uncompromising and I was not going to keep her prisoner. Ironically my ex-wife eventually ‘burned out” and stopped practicing Islam altogether when she too was boycotted for not being sufficiently ’salafi’ over some petty argument on one of their “salafi sister” email lists. She does not cover at all and is basically agnostic about religion at this point.

    So here I am left alone trying to get my life back together and raising my four children alone. At 41 years of age I am trying to hold on with everything that I have to maintain my own Islam. This story has repeated itself in many different forms with many different people. At this point I just quietly go to pray and leave. The “salafi dawah” is just a bunch of literal legal code with no connection to God.

    At this point, after having left the salafi cult, life is full of ups and downs and I am working very hard to raise my children alone and under a new understanding of Islam. Damage has been done to them and I am trying to tell them that the cult of salafiyyahis not what Islam is. At some point I have to be honest with them about their mother. Imagine as a child seeing your mother go from wearing all black and niqaab to wearing shorts and tee-shirt. I have to hold it together for them. That thought alone is overwhelming and frightening. I read this post about cults and realized that I had been in a cult clothed in the name of “pure” Islam

    In other aspects I have so many mixed feelings. I feel as if I have just returned from another planet. I feel full of rage and pain. I feel full of hope for the future now that I am not shackeled by that cult. I am still coming to terms with being spiritually raped and feeling like my life has been. I don’t know how to convey the extremes of the pain.

    Having spent many years in the salafi cult, I have to start life over at 41. The idea of having to basically start life over again is sad, frustrating, and painful. I must remind myself constantly that it is possible to rebuild although I will not be able to make up for all the years the salafi cult has stolen from me, but I can make up for some of those lost years. I’ve worked very, very hard to recover from a severely dysfunctional family in the salafi cult to continue with life.

    For others that are recovering, I am sharing my story with you that so that you know that you are not alone and that if you work hard, you can recapture your life. I have not fully recaptured my life, but I am working hard at it.

    this salafi group is the madkhali salafis (super salafis) which brothers and specially sisters should avoid, most salafi groups are not like this alhamdulillah
    Last edited by Abdullah288; 15-01-2012 at 10:14 AM.
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    hmmm, in this time of fitna, where there are alot of groups claiming to be on the right path but rather are following their whims and desires and innovations and we know that every misguidance leads to hellfire, and that there will emerge 73 sects (where only one is the righly guided sect) then aren't we supposed to follow the path that the companions were on I.e the way of the salaf who who around the Prophet (pbuh) and had the best understanding of islam? Didn't the prophet (pbuh) say that the first 3 muslim generations are the best ones?. Therefore what is wrong with following the interpretation of tawheed, fiqh and hadith from the sahaba, tabieen and taba'at-Tabieen ? The salafis do follow the 4 imams, the authors of the 6 books and other scholars. But there is immense emphasise on authenticity of ahadith, in order to avoid following something that is deviant, and salafis do respect the difference of opinions on particular issues, however, believe only that those pertaining to aqeedah are misguided.

    I do agree that there are neo-salafis that have appeared in modern times that declare that nearly everyone is misguided, but they do not represent the true salafi madhab as the salafis were open to difference of opinion and follow the saying of the Prophet (pbuh):“The likeness of the believers in their mutual love, mercy and compassion is that of a single body; when one part of it is suffering the rest of the body joins it in fever and staying awake”


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    Assalamalaikum:

    Be hold with Allah, the Exalted. It is His Sunnah. Whoever follow right path will definitely face some problems. All the Prophets of Allah faced the same.


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    Salafi dont respect others. Beside them they believe others are Kafir and Mushrik due to taqleed.
    Last edited by zakir15; 15-01-2012 at 10:34 AM. Reason: grammatical mistake.


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    Default Re: Any X-Salafi?

    Quote Originally Posted by zakir15 View Post
    Salafi dont respect others. Beside them they believe others are Kafir and Mushrik due to taqleed.
    Assalamu alaykum

    Akhi we should not generalise salafis like this. the salafis who probally due takfir on people who make taqleed are ahl hadeeth who are in pakistan, india mostly.
    i remember telling an egypytian salafi(non madkhali) that some people who do takfir on people who do taqleed he couldn't believe it and started laughing.
    so brother please don't generalise say some salafis and without a doubt many salafis are free from that evil action
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