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    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    Yes i know Arabic Alhamdulilah. You just believe in fairy tales and start throwing them out like a parrot. Hanfi madhab is a Fitna of A'jam and A'jami people.
    We A'jamis are Muslim because of another 'Arab, may Peace and Blessings of Allah (SWT) be upon him, not you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulaiman84 View Post
    Yes, according to you, those 67 + Imams of ahlus sunnah were wrong about Imam Abu Hanifah . Digest now...


    فإنها لا تعمى الأبصار و لكن تعمى القلوب التي في الصدور
    i bet you dont know more than 10 among them.That was a random copy paste by that guy. Abu hanifa has been deemed week in hadith by Imam bukhari , Imam Nasai , Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal, Imam Ibn Hibban , Imam Uqaili , Imam Muslim , Imam Malik , Imam Sufyaan thawri and so many others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maripat View Post
    We A'jamis are Muslim because of another 'Arab, may Peace and Blessings of Allah (SWT) be upon him, not you.
    You may leave.
    No You have your own A'jami prophets. Your's was from koofa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    i bet you dont know more than 10 among them.That was a random copy paste by that guy. Abu hanifa has been deemed week in hadith by Imam bukhari , Imam Nasai , Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal, Imam Ibn Hibban , Imam Uqaili , Imam Muslim , Imam Malik , Imam Sufyaan thawri and so many others.
    -Sigh-

    But I do. The post by amr123 (that you claim was a random copy/paste job) was originally posted by me and I took it from a Shafi'i Muhaddith Alim named, Shamsud-Deen Muhammad Salihi Dimashqi in his book, 'Uqudul Jamman fi Manaqib Imam Al-A'dham Abi Hanifata An-Nu'man. Those statements of the Imams in praise of Abu Hanifah are only from a small excerpt of the book, 'cause there's many more good things Ulamaa have said about him. Maybe you should read more closely, it might do you good...


    Sorry, these statements might irritate you:

    The senior imams of hadith and those notable individuals of this science have refuted these disgraceful lies in every age, and wrote hadiths and their commentaries; and there are many that did this.

    Many of them devoted books and specific treatises explaining the virtues (manaqib) of Imam Abu Hanifah (may Allah mercy him) because of this. Among them were Imam Ibn Abi al-‘Awwam al-Sa‘di,[1] Imam Hafiz Ibn Abd al-Barr al-Maliki, the hadith scholar Imam Yusuf ibn ‘Abd al-Hadi al-Hanbali, Imam Hafiz al-Dhahabi, Imam Hafiz al-Zayla‘i, Imam Hafiz ‘Ali al-Qari, Imam Hafiz al-Kirmani, Imam al-Kardari, Imam Ibn Hajar al-Makki, Imam Hafiz al-Suyuti, Imam Muhammad ibn Yusuf al-Salihi, Imam Mawfaq ibn Ahmad al-Makki and others.

    We shall suffice here in this short introduction by mentioning what the researcher Imam Hafiz Shams al-Din Muhammad al-Dhahabi has mentioned in Tadhkirat al-Huffaz, an excellent book containing only details of the imams and notable hafizs [2] of hadith. Al-Dhahabi himself mentions regarding this book in his introduction:

    “This Tadhkirah is of the names of those trusted (mu‘addal) bearers of the prophetic sciences and those who refer to their [own] ijtihad in considering [narrations to be] reliable, weak, correct and fabricated. It is upon Allah that I hold fast to, upon Him I rely and to Him I turn to.”

    In this excellent and wonderful book, Tadhkirat al-Huffaz, Imam Hafiz al-Dhahabi mentions Imam Abu Hanifah among those major hafizs of hadith of the fifth rank (al-tabaqat al-khamisah). He writes:

    “Abu Hanifah, the great imam (imam al-a‘zam), the jurist of Iraq, Nu‘man ibn Thabit ibn Zuta al-Taymi (who were their masters) al-Kufi. He was born in 80 AH and saw Anas ibn Malik more than once when he came to them in Kufa. Ibn Sa‘d has narrated this from Sayf ibn Jabir that he heard Abu Hanifah say this. He narrated from ‘Ata’a, Nafi‘, ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Hurmuz al-A‘raj, ‘Adi ibn Thabit, Salamah ibn Kuhayl, Abu Ja‘far Muhammad ibn ‘Ali, Qatadah, ‘Amr ibn Dinar, Abu Ishaq and many others. Zufar ibn Hudhayl, Dawud al-Ta’i, Qadi Abu Yusuf, Muhammad ibn al-Hasan, Asad ibn ‘Amr, Hasan ibn Ziyad al-Lu’lui, Nuh al-Jami‘, Abu Muti‘ al-Balkhi and others learned fiqh from him. He learned fiqh from Hammad ibn Abu Sulayman and others. Waki‘, Yazid ibn Harun, Sa‘d ibn al-Sult, Abu ‘Asim, ‘Abd al-Razzaq, ‘Ubayd Allah ibn Musa, Abu Na‘im, Abu ‘Abd al-Rahman al-Muqri and others narrated from him. He was an imam, pious, knowledgeable, someone who practiced, someone who indulged in great worship and a man of great ranking; he would not accept the sultan’s gifts but would trade and earn a living.

    “Dirar ibn Sard said, Yazid ibn Harun was asked, ‘Who is a greater faqih, al-Thawri or Abu Hanifah?’ He replied, ‘Abu Hanifah was a greater faqih and Sufyan was greater in remembering hadith.’ Ibn al-Mubarak said, ‘Abu Hanifah was the greatest faqih among the people.’ Al-Shafi‘i said, ‘People are children to Abu Hanifah in fiqh.’ Yazid said, ‘I never saw anyone more god fearing and more intelligent than Abu Hanifah.’ Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn al-Qasim ibn Mihraz narrated from Yahya ibn Ma‘in who said, ‘There is no issue with him; he was not accused of anything. Yazid ibn ‘Umar ibn Hubayrah imposed on him to take up the judiciary but he refused to be qadi.’ Abu Dawud (may Allah mercy him) said, ‘Imam Abu Hanifah was an imam.’
    http://www.deoband.org/2011/04/hadit...ah-and-hadith/
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    Default Re: Hanbali or Salafi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    No You have your own A'jami prophets. Your's was from koofa.
    Your statement has kufri accusations. Restrain yourself. Our last prophet was Muhammad . Only Qadhiyanis don't believe in the finality of his Nubuwwah.
    Hearts are predisposed to love someone who does them good and to detest someone who does them harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    No You have your own A'jami prophets. Your's was from koofa.
    Typical Takfeeri attitude of the ahle KHABEES...
    You'll gonna pay a huge price... for attacking imam azam. Allah (s.w.t) is all watching.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    No You have your own A'jami prophets. Your's was from koofa.
    It is my pleasure to assert that I am a follower of Imām Abū Ḥanīfah Nu’man bin Thabit bin Zuta bin Mah of Koofa, may Allah (SWT) have Mercy on him.
    And it also my pleasure to assert that I consider Imam Malik (RA) Imam Shafe'i (RA) and Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal (RA) too were on the right path.
    And I also assert that if you make any attempt to disgrace Imam Azam Abu Hanifa (RA) them you might get disgraced in this world.
    And those who tried to disgrace him earlier - they are not known to the world in present times.
    And the huge number of Muslims take their Islam from Imam Abu Hanifa (RA).
    And indeed those who try to disgrace Imam Abu Hanifa (RA) or any other Imam then he is indeed trying to disgrace the pious Companions (RA) of beloved Prophet (PBUH).
    And such a person runs the risk of loosing his faith, belief, iman.
    And you are showing such tendencies.
    Resist it and desist from it. It is from Satan the cursed.
    And I have warned you.
    And verily Allah (SWT) is the best Warner.
    You have fallen into the trap of hurling wild accusations.
    And this is not a blessing of Allah(SWT). This is punishment.
    You have time now to repent - later you may not have. Repent now and turn to Islam and run back to your Lord, our Lord Most High.
    My welcome here for you expired with my previous post.
    If I have said some words of admonition after that then take them as Mercy from our Lord Most High.
    We are familiar, by and large, with the type of things that you are saying - heard them several times.
    Your company is not enjoyable at the moment - you may leave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    No You have your own A'jami prophets. Your's was from koofa.
    Another silly comment like this and you will be banned
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    Seeking Your burning beacon light
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    Why do many Ash'aris pretend that Ibn Taymiyyah was the only anti-Ash'ari among the Hanabilah, when the overwhelming majority of them were anti-Ash'ari, and there were disputes between the two before Ibn Taymiyyah and why are so many contemporary anti-Salafi Ash'aris unprincipled and hypocritical like the Ahbash who were backed by the Nusayris for more than 20 years in Lebanon and are still supporting them, and the Nusayri aqeedah is tajseem and kufr witness their deification of Bashar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salalfussalih View Post
    No You have your own A'jami prophets. Your's was from koofa.
    No wonder 2/3rds of the Ummah has gathered on it.


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