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    on the topic wud be a bonus
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnibrother View Post

    so basicaly is everything preset up and created, has Allah already created it? or is Allah actively creating each second as the second passes by?

    please tell me correct belief we are supposed to have regarding this no philosophies please i wud realy wud like to hear deobandi perspective on this.... and evidence, video or a article on the topic wud be a bonus




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    yeah i kn0w i am n0t discussing qadr i just want t0 kn0w is Allah actively creating every second as it goes, or has it already been created?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnibrother View Post
    what is the correct beliefs for sunni's:
    all this time i looked at life like Allah created everything already us, etc. kind of like a video game its already done and finished and we can do what we want in the video game with out the video game maker having to make each action we do in the video game constantly while we do it. so tell me did i understand life wrong all this time? is the reality that each second that is passing by Allah is creating it as the second passes by he is creating each of our actions, attributes imagination as the second passes by? is this the correct belief or can you explain which is the right way to explain this please? (thank you)

    so basicaly is everything preset up and created, has Allah already created it? or is Allah actively creating each second as the second passes by?

    please tell me correct belief we are supposed to have regarding this no philosophies please i wud realy wud like to hear deobandi perspective on this.... and evidence, video or a article on the topic wud be a bonus
    Wal qadri khairihi wa sharrihi minallahi taala - thats all you need to believe in for this topic.

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    Except you at the occurrence of widespread calamity.


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    Its not like a video game. Every moment is being created by God. You might be aware that at subatomic level everything goes in and out of existance.

    Secondly, God is not in time. Therefore, past, present and future does not apply to God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by warea View Post
    Its not like a video game. Every moment is being created by God. You might be aware that at subatomic level everything goes in and out of existance.

    Secondly, God is not in time. Therefore, past, present and future does not apply to God.
    u g0t evidence f0r this a vide0, a article, anything i can get a understanding from?


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    Quote Originally Posted by warea View Post
    Its not like a video game. Every moment is being created by God. You might be aware that at subatomic level everything goes in and out of existance.

    Secondly, God is not in time. Therefore, past, present and future does not apply to God.
    where can i find any website 0r m0re inf0 0n this?


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    There's no particular website specific about this. But you can perhaps find in the following website: http://www.actualevidence.com

    when going theough the articles.

    The fact that Allah is not in time is because time is based on existance of change. Change leads to moments/time. This is not apllicable to God because change is temporal and temporal cannot be eternal. In other words, change contains a movement from non-existance to existance, making it a creation.

    The reality of every single thing being created by God, (unlike the case of a mechanical object that works on its own after creation by humans), is called occassionalism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by warea View Post
    There's no particular website specific about this. But you can perhaps find in the following website: http://www.actualevidence.com

    when going theough the articles.

    The fact that Allah is not in time is because time is based on existance of change. Change leads to moments/time. This is not apllicable to God because change is temporal and temporal cannot be eternal. In other words, change contains a movement from non-existance to existance, making it a creation.

    The reality of every single thing being created by God, (unlike the case of a mechanical object that works on its own after creation by humans), is called occassionalism.
    i looked this up on wikipedia about occasionalism i need to know if this is a theory of gazahali etc. cuz i heard he was into philosphy, and philosophy is garbage and i don't want no philopsophy's here i just want to know what the majority main stream ahlus sunnah wal jammah view this? has everything already been created or is every second that passes by being created by Allah as the second passes by? what is required for us to believe can we believe either one or which one is required to believe?


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    Let me put it like this....simple for me and everyone else....Allah set everything in place and then put it into motion. We are going through this motion, and Allah provides "edits" to this motion when he wills.

    Also to stop other's being confused...although time doesn't apply to Allah this doesn't mean Allah can't observe time pass.


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