Dream of Maulana tariq jameel!!!

[3thm4n]

You don't need a dream to know that Maulana Saad is on that list. Just go meet him.

[pluto]

Dont know whether he heard it directly from him or not. All he told was that he had been in the commpany of maulana for around 6 months n in the conversation, he narrated the dream. i had heard it before many times but this time since a scholar told it , so was curious to know about..

What is ur version of 313?

I'll let you know some other time bro. Maybe in the brother's forum.

[3thm4n]

I got an email that "junfrared" replied to this post, criticizing the idea of 313 and saying that it contradicts an aayah of the Qur'an. Did he delete his post or was it deleted by a mod? I hope it wasn't deleted...what's the point of a forum if one can't even discuss things? Plus, it's possible that others reading this may have the same objection. I had a response to his objection, but the post was removed (either by him or mods).

Can junfrared confirm?

[junfrared]

On what rules my post were deleted.

Do you have more respect for post which have dreams over those which have quran and the aathar of sahabah?

Do believe in to propagate the non-islamic thoughts rather than the understanding of Quran wa sunnah?
Can you give a single point which was against Quran or hadeeth or against the fatwas of ulama in my previous post?

Anybody who has deleted my post do restore my post and Do repent from this unethical and non-islamic act. This is the contempt of Quran

[3thm4n]

Do believe in to propagates the non-islamic thoughts rather than the understanding of Quran wa sunnah?
Can you give a single point which was against Quran or hadeeth or against the fatwas of ulama in my previous post?

I actually had a response to your post...although I don't believe your argument was correct, it was still unfair for your post to be deleted. Whoever deleted your post should apologize.

[junfrared]

I didn't give the Aristotle theory, so you cannot understand it. It is just simple things stick to Quran stick hadeeth stick to those ulama who are repected among the great ulamas, those ulamas who used as a reference among the ulamas, leave anybody else, soon your cores become like those 313. Otherwise even if you spent thousands of years to make just 313 you can't make one like them. Believing or repecting the dreams, kashf, ilqa, woroodatas.... which are under clear violation of Quran wa sunnat is completely prohibited, it is opinion of ulama deoband I don't whether or not you believe in them.

[ahamed_sharif]

On what rules my post were deleted.

Do you have more respect for post which have dreams over those which have quran and the aathar of sahabah?

Do believe in to propagate the non-islamic thoughts rather than the understanding of Quran wa sunnah?
Can you give a single point which was against Quran or hadeeth or against the fatwas of ulama in my previous post?

Anybody who has deleted my post do restore my post and Do repent from this unethical and non-islamic act. This is the contempt of Quran

Assalamu alaykum

I don't see any contempt of quran, nor it was unethical or non-islamic act to delete your post. I was about to respond to your post. Whatever you had posted is through your personal interpretation. And your interpretation was wrong. Rather it was a wrong abuse.

[hazratji]

I have heard something similar to this. But that list of 72-73 people included Haji Abdul Wahab saab.
Wallahhu Alam

[shatibi]

I got an email that "junfrared" replied to this post, criticizing the idea of 313 and saying that it contradicts an aayah of the Qur'an. Did he delete his post or was it deleted by a mod? I hope it wasn't deleted...what's the point of a forum if one can't even discuss things? Plus, it's possible that others reading this may have the same objection. I had a response to his objection, but the post was removed (either by him or mods).

Can junfrared confirm?

On what rules my post were deleted.

Do you have more respect for post which have dreams over those which have quran and the aathar of sahabah?

Do believe in to propagate the non-islamic thoughts rather than the understanding of Quran wa sunnah?
Can you give a single point which was against Quran or hadeeth or against the fatwas of ulama in my previous post?

Anybody who has deleted my post do restore my post and Do repent from this unethical and non-islamic act. This is the contempt of Quran

The post was deleted for two reasons:

1. It had some very disrespectful, generalized words

and 2. within minutes of being posted, it had already led to bickering and insults (due to the disrespectful material contained).

Say what you have to say but there is no need for disrespect and mocking. Repeated statements like that about Ulama will lead to infractions and then a ban.

And also, if any of you wish to ask about why something happened, don't assume it is "contempt of the Qur'an" or something like that والعياذ بالله. This time I responded, otherwise normally such questions will automatically be deleted. Have some adab guys, please.

PS: For anyone who wished to respond, the crux of what the brother said (minus his mockery) is that it cannot be that 313 will change the world, because of the Ayah "Verily never will Allah change a condition of a people until they change what is within their souls [Ra'd 13:11]", and 313 is a very negligible amount out of a billion Muslims.

[sabm90]

Dreams are not the barometer by which you judge someone neither does a person become a disbeliever if he doesnt accepts someone's dreams.
The person who tops the list for me it is Ameer ul Momineen rather than Maulana Saad sahab as it was admitted by Mufti Shamzayi sb . Even Maulana Sher Ali shah sb speaks about it.