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    Is Al Kauthar Institute a Salafi organisation? This is their website http://www.alkauthar.org/

    Could members of this forum provide their personal views and experiences to answer the above question.

    I would prefer informed answers that are backed with substance.

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    Default Re: Al Kauthar Institute - Is this Salafi?

    al kawthar is a great organisation that teaches a lot of good mashAllah

    I dont think there are many courses that will disagree with the deobandi aqeedah, the site you provided has a list of their courses so someone can correct me if they can name which course and what specific part of the content make them salafis
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    Default Re: Al Kauthar Institute - Is this Salafi?

    What about Riyad As Saliheen rsiusa.org?


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    I know of people who after attending a few of their courses have become your typical Salafis. Of course I am not generalising and this is from the few that I know. Also, in South Africa we have prominent Salafi figures promoting AK - that on its own says enough. These same Salafi "scholars" have on numerous occasions, and this is well known fact in South Africa, attacked Deobandis and Deobandi Ulama such as Mufti AK Hoosen, etc.

    Definitely to stay away. Although we admit that they are doing good work :alham: and this should be awaken us to make an effort as well. And :alham: many 'Ulama are doing good work but in a South African context more can be done.





    PS: I did ask a local scholar regarding AK and he has studied their course material, etc and he said AK are Salafi, if you like you can verify with him via www.rihla.co.za

    Also I am sure AK and Al-Maghrib have been discussed on the forum previously at great length. Search for those.
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    The society is now very bad, people are asking for proof even if we tell them - Its Sunnah to fast monday, thursday.

    I am from India. If my forefather would have asked the proof from Arab traders, today what would have happened to me?


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    P.s. The Al Kawthar Academy is different from the Al kawthar institute thats being discussed in this thread.
    The Al Kawthar Academy is the one in which Sheik Riyad ul Haq teaches(not salafi), I think its in Birmingham.
    The Al Kawthar Institute is the salafi one.
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    Default Re: Al Kauthar Institute - Is this Salafi?

    Quote Originally Posted by afriki_haqq View Post


    I know of people who after attending a few of their courses have become your typical Salafis. Of course I am not generalising and this is from the few that I know. Also, in South Africa we have prominent Salafi figures promoting AK - that on its own says enough. These same Salafi "scholars" have on numerous occasions, and this is well known fact in South Africa, attacked Deobandis and Deobandi Ulama such as Mufti AK Hoosen, etc.

    Definitely to stay away. Although we admit that they are doing good work :alham: and this should be awaken us to make an effort as well. And :alham: many 'Ulama are doing good work but in a South African context more can be done.





    PS: I did ask a local scholar regarding AK and he has studied their course material, etc and he said AK are Salafi, if you like you can verify with him via www.rihla.co.za

    Also I am sure AK and Al-Maghrib have been discussed on the forum previously at great length. Search for those.
    Thanks for the feedback. Would I be right to assume that these individuals downplay the Salafi label to work among Hanafis (particularly Deobandis in the UK and South Africa)?
    They claim some of their teachers are Deobandi - how does this all fit in?


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    Default Re: Al Kauthar Institute - Is this Salafi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shamli 1857 View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. Would I be right to assume that these individuals downplay the Salafi label to work among Hanafis (particularly Deobandis in the UK and South Africa)?
    They claim some of their teachers are Deobandi - how does this all fit in?
    Yes, this is correct. They would not openly claim to be Salafi and from what I have heard some of their courses it seems as if they are accommodating of the various madha'ib. It is true that some of the lecturers do come from Deobandi backgrounds, studied at Deobandi Darul 'Ulooms, etc. This (downplaying the Salafi label, claiming to be Deobandi, etc) is simply a conniving and misleading methodology that they employ and unfortunately many have been lost.

    On another thread our forum Ameer Saheb, Mufti Husain (HA) says:

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Tamim View Post
    brother

    Is everyone in alkauthar salafi? I thought that Shaykh Bilal Ismail was Hanafi?
    Wasalaam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husain View Post


    Tariq Appleby, Bilal Ismail etc are all Salafi's.
    there are institutes that our 'Ulama have set up such as Shaykh Riyadh al-Haqs Al-Kawthar Academy and As-Suffa Institute and others. The challenge is to take them out there to the public and there will be success.

    Surely, haqq will always prevail.
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    maulana shamli I attended some of their courses in the UK by shaykh tawfique chawdhury the esteemed student of shaykh mukhtar ash shinqiti db from Madinah Munawara. I found it very good to say the least.


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