Take a look at this one article, translated from Dr Fahd al-Oudah's book If'al wa la Haraj. This is on Damyal's Facebook.
In addition to our Deobandi/Hanafi Ulemas, Saudi Ulema have also refuted this book. Sh. Damyal feels it is suitable for his Facebook and for people to benefit from it.
He also produces this article: http://islamicstudies.islammessage.c...e.aspx?aid=423
It has been critiqued by Salafi shaikhs here: http://www.dorar.net/art/588
There's also a list of books that have done radd on it. You can read more about the radds of the Saudi ulemahs here: http://www.****************/vb/showthread.php?t=87579 (ahl alhadeeth.com)
This now begs the question : What is Damiel up to?
Much of the contents is contrary to the the Hanafi mazhab. My issue isn't that he's a Salafi and follows the Salafi way, my problem is with him setting up an organisation in Deobandi community and calling it Abu Hanifah Foundation. There is something wrong here.
إملاء الخير خير من السكوت والسكوت خير من إملاء الشر
"Speaking what is good is better than silence, and silence is better than speaking evil."
But I'd like to say one thing, just because you may have differences with him, and just because your Deobandi Hanafi, does it mean you have a trademark for the name Abu Hanifa, or his Madhab? Perhaps the brother has understood something you didn't, or has read books you haven't, or has taken different selections than you have, similar to the issue of Taqleed that we know other Hanafis also took.... Just cause he differs with your Method, doesn't automatically mean he is wrong, and if you are sincere in trying to know the truth and come to a common ground, like i said above we can get you in contact with him.
وتعاونوا على البر والتقوى ولا تعاونوا على الإثم والعدوان واتقوا الله إن الله شديد العقاب .
And cooperate in righteousness and piety, but do not cooperate in sin and aggression. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.
Last edited by Abu Zakariya Yahya; 08-05-2012 at 02:49 AM.
Mawlana Shamli - I have to really question your methods in judging the Sheikh. If you seem to know so much about him, why don’t you speak to him directly rather than making accusations against him behind his back? Is this the character of an intellect?
Let me illustrate just one of the many flaws with your methods. You selected one article from the Islamic Studies website, (ironically forwarded by Sheikh `Abd Allah b. ash-Shaykh al-Mahfuz b. Bayyah, a Mauritanian scholar respected by scholars from all four schools and a teacher of Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and another article written by the Sheikh al-Bayyah himself) and use that as a basis to attack the Sheikh’s character.
Listen to what Sh. Hamza Yusuf says about Sh. Bin Bayyah:
Just by reading the about us page, on the Islamic Studies website, it is clear that the website is primarily for scholars and students of knowledge so that they familiarize themselves with different views.
“This website is primarily for English speaking scholars, Imāms, and students with an interest in the field of Islamic Studies. Through this website, we hope to introduce academic writings of reputable Muslim scholars, as well as facilitating ways to reach them. We also aim to make available research papers in English on a variety of Islamic subjects and especially issues related to Muslim Minority Fiqh. The website will also contain fatāwas issued by major judicial assemblies and legislative commissions.”
Why can’t the Sheikh allude to research papers written by respected scholars on a variety of issue. Also do you know exactly what is the role of the Sheikh on that website?
Then you attack him for some of the faṭāwās on that website the majority of which are from the Islamic Fiqh Academy, with the vice president of the academy being Mufti Taqi Uthmani for many many years!!
Listen to what Mufti Taqi has to say about the Islamic Fiqh Academy.
So now according to your reasoning, is Mufti Taqi Uthmani a deviant too?
Finally, again using your selective method and questionable methods, look at the books I found on the same website:
Differences of the Imam by Sheikh Muhammad Zakariyya Kandhlawi
The Legal Status of Following a Madhab by Mufti Taqi Uthmani
Fiqh al-Imam: Key Proofs in Hanafi Fiqh by Sh. Abdur-Rahman b. Yusuf
The Language of the Friday Khutbah by Mufti Taqi Uthmani
So what conclusions should we make about Sheikh Imtiyaz on the basis of these books? Especially when they tackle the most sensitive matter of Taqleed?
Even the previous comments of tawlib were completely disregarded and he had actually attended Sheikh Imtiyaz’s course over a period of two days dealing with the very issues of the Imams. Let me remind you of his words:
“The thing is, either you heard them speak against madhabs or you didn’t and I’m starting to get the feeling that you haven’t attended a course and you are basing your views on hearsay.
I actually attended the Chronicles of the shariah course by Imtiaz Damiel and not once was he disrespectful to Imaam Abu Hanifa (rahmatullah alayh), Imaam Abu Yusuf (rahmatullah alayh) or Imaam Muhammad (rahmatullah alayh), and not once did he urge the students to leave their madhab, not even a subtle hint.
Furthermore, There were Hanafis , Shafies, Hanbalis and Maalikis at the course and I didn’t hear a single statement against any of the Madhabs or against any of the great Imaams.”
I think we should all fear Allah and remember that what we write about others could be a source of our punishment in the next life. If we have a problem with a brother try and address it with him directly rather than questioning his intentions, something which you are not privy to and painting everyone with the same brush.
Likewise, from what I know, Abu Hanifah Foundation, is run by local dedicated brothers, with the majority of teachers being alims and alimahs (graduates from Darul ulooms). If you want to know more about them, I would likewise suggest speaking to them directly rather than making unfounded allegations - this is the professional way.
Look forward to your response.
Some people - act like mafiosi - Deobandi mafia. According to this bunch even the elders of deoband would be wrong. They exhibit somewhat one sided aspect of hanafi madhab interpreted by a monolitich set of scholars. I would say most of these people are not even connected to suluk but have no problem attacking other deo scholars who don't agree with them. They are wahabyte debonadi with salafist mindset i.e madhabist!!
Asalaam U Alaikum brothers and sisters,
I am new to this forum and have just read parts of this thread. I wanted to ask why people are so caught up in issues of fiqh when we should be trying to purify the
heart, belief and actions of ourselves and the ummah. In regards to following the four schools of thought, they are all correct as long as they adhere to the Quran and Sunnah and do not deviate into innovation of the religion.
If the prophet pbuh was alive today he would NOT categorise us into 'schools of thought' or madhabs we would just be called Muslims. I would like some constructive feedback not emotional tribal behaviour please.