Al Kauthar Institute - Is this Salafi?

[faisal ahmad]

Yes they are salafi and hence best to stay away from them, particularly, similar to Al-Maghrib they use an insidious 'we are just Muslim' approach.

The likes of Bilal Ismail are sometimes advertised as being from a 'deobandi/tableeghi family' (possibly to draw crowds in south africa), but in reality people like him have studied at Madinah University and as Mufti Husain confirmed are salafi.

[Aram]

it does seem like they have changed over the years and and try to appeal to as wide of an audience as they can...even their teachers have changed in their stances....a lot of it seems to be marketing...but ofcourse Allah knows best

im sure some of their courses are beneficial, i have never attended them but recently i have come across people who claim to be students of these institutes and when it comes to fiqh etc their understanding seems well kind of non-existent

i have seen them making statements like

"i dont stick to a madhab rather i look for the strongest opinion"
err no you don't literally go out and look for the strongest opinion...you follow what your scholars tell you is the strongest opinion according to their knowledge

"I don't mind madhabs as long as they don't contain bidah and shirk"
This just made me laugh...clearly they don't understand what a madhab is

"I am mostly hanafi but i believe we shouldn't follow imam Abu Hanifah in everything..sometimes we can follow our heart"
because your heart which has no knowledge is always right

basically for the amount they are paying for these courses...the people i have personally come across are just ahle confused

[Shamli 1857]

Jazakallah for the feedback. I think the style of operation of the Al-Kauthar group in terms of not wearing their Salafism on their sleeves and showing themselves to be Hanafi/Deobandi is problematic. This requires some serious work.

[Aram]

Jazakallah for the feedback. I think the style of operation of the Al-Kauthar group in terms of not wearing their Salafism on their sleeves and showing themselves to be Hanafi/Deobandi is problematic. This requires some serious work.

i have heard from a lot of people that Bilal Ismail is a hanafi? i even remember some salafis on ahya forum having a rant about him and why alkauthar was allowing madhabis to preach their stuff

maybe he is hanafi in fiqh and salafi in aqeedah

[Shamli 1857]

i have heard from a lot of people that Bilal Ismail is a hanafi? i even remember some salafis on ahya forum having a rant about him and why alkauthar was allowing madhabis to preach their stuff

maybe he is hanafi in fiqh and salafi in aqeedah

This is what gets confusing. There are other members of the Al Kauthar teaching crew who seem to present themselves also as Hanafi among us, but then project themselves as Salafis among them. I think this dual-personality is more current among those of the Al Kauthar crew who happen to come from Gujarati-Deobandi communities. Any thoughts on this?

[afriki_haqq]

This is what gets confusing. There are other members of the Al Kauthar teaching crew who seem to present themselves also as Hanafi among us, but then project themselves as Salafis among them. I think this dual-personality is more current among those of the Al Kauthar crew who happen to come from Gujarati-Deobandi communities. Any thoughts on this?

This is deception, and the one who deceives is not from amongst us.

[Servant.of.Allah]

what about rsiusa.org

[Aram]

This is what gets confusing. There are other members of the Al Kauthar teaching crew who seem to present themselves also as Hanafi among us, but then project themselves as Salafis among them. I think this dual-personality is more current among those of the Al Kauthar crew who happen to come from Gujarati-Deobandi communities. Any thoughts on this?

i don't know im not part of the gujarati deobandi community...but i do recall salafis on a salafi forum being very annoyed about some course that he did where he told everyone he is a hanafi

but i think they the type of 'hanafis' that are against taqlid shakhsi....and is what they promote...which is kinda irresponsible as they are preaching this to students who have no basic knowledge of fiqh from what i have seen of the students of al kauthar some of them don't even seem to understand what a madhab is

[Shamli 1857]

i don't know im not part of the gujarati deobandi community...but i do recall salafis on a salafi forum being very annoyed about some course that he did where he told everyone he is a hanafi

but i think they the type of 'hanafis' that are against taqlid shakhsi....and is what they promote...which is kinda irresponsible as they are preaching this to students who have no basic knowledge of fiqh from what i have seen of the students of al kauthar some of them don't even seem to understand what a madhab is

I think their usage of the word Hanafi is in the literal meaning (as in monotheist) and not the common ('urfi) meaning, as in an adherent of the Hanafi mathhab. They seem to employ this lexical strategy to confuse the Hanafi laity. I presume not all Salafis recognise this and therefore criticise the Al Kauthar crew because of this. Their are also various strands within the Salafis and the criticism might be based on this. I know some Salafis who are particularly vocal in their critcism of the Al Kauthar and Al Maghrib lot.

[pluto]

Stop.

Next time, use a New-Sony-Voice-Recorders-ICD-SX712d-ICD-UX512-and-ICD-PX312-470x361.jpg and record their lectures. They are not even expensive anymore.
I personally stay far away from such 'learning institutes' if there is even a small doubt regarding their teachings. I'm more worried about the sisters' though, we really need to put in more efforts to make it easier for them to learn Islam.

The more I read about them (institutes) the more I stick with Tabligh. I think I have a plan to do something about ^ Also, there are many scholars (traditional) who are using the internet and taking Islamic courses. Stick with them to be safe.