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    Brother afriki_haqq i make dua that Allah accepts your fikr in this regard.

    What you are going through now! The feelings you have now! i have had for the past 7 years, since i started on SF. If i remember correctly at one time Moulana Syria1 (or was the name syria,,, can’t recall) rebuked me for thinking that nothing is being done by our Ulama. This was 2 or 3 years ago. To date I haven’t seen anything tangible in this regard.

    When you find Ulama that are willing to support you (and there are many, they just need to be engaged correctly) then i am willing to assist you In Sha Allah
    There is no limit to what a man can achieve, as longs as it does not matter who takes the credit for it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mospike View Post
    Brother afriki_haqq i make dua that Allah accepts your fikr in this regard.

    What you are going through now! The feelings you have now! i have had for the past 7 years, since i started on SF. If i remember correctly at one time Moulana Syria1 (or was the name syria,,, can’t recall) rebuked me for thinking that nothing is being done by our Ulama. This was 2 or 3 years ago. To date I haven’t seen anything tangible in this regard.

    When you find Ulama that are willing to support you (and there are many, they just need to be engaged correctly) then i am willing to assist you In Sha Allah
    Brother mospike can you contact me, just leave your email here. If you don't mind would like to discuss few matters in private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mospike View Post
    When you find Ulama that are willing to support you (and there are many, they just need to be engaged correctly) then i am willing to assist you In Sha Allah
    I suggest that you rope in some people who are experts in behavioral sciences and also have a fair knowledge of Deen and begin your work. Draft out your Goals and targets and plan them out. If you are looking for Ulema to guide you through all these stages from inception to execution, then tough luck.

    There are very rare exception, most of the Ulema would not feel it easy to do things in an Unconventional and Revolutionary manner. They want to stick with the tried and tested method. It's not their fault. They have little to no training in behavioral sciences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by At Tayyib View Post
    I suggest that you rope in some people who are experts in behavioral sciences and also have a fair knowledge of Deen and begin your work. Draft out your Goals and targets and plan them out. If you are looking for Ulema to guide you through all these stages from inception to execution, then tough luck.

    There are very rare exception, most of the Ulema would not feel it easy to do things in an Unconventional and Revolutionary manner. They want to stick with the tried and tested method. It's not their fault. They have little to no training in behavioral sciences.
    Yesterday I was accompanying a well known UK scholar to a talk he was going to deliver, we talked about this thread and the conclusion was exactly what the above sentence in bold says, our ulama need to get grasp of this quickly otherwise they will further widen the gap between them and the public!

    I would say as brother gabriel suggested quiet some time back that the ulama need to have training after they complete their alim/alimah courses or this is taught during their course.
    إملاء الخير خير من السكوت والسكوت خير من إملاء الشر

    "Speaking what is good is better than silence, and silence is better than speaking evil."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamli 1857 View Post
    Seems the infamous Harris Hammam (AKA Ismail Patel) is irked by this thread.

    http://forums.*********************/.../index103.html
    Ignore Ismail Patel i.e. the guy who hides behind the alias HARRIS HAMMAM. He's just an internet addict who has nothing better to do. Even on the IA forums you'll see him often just replying to himself on threads with no-one else contributing or caring. Strange personality.


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    A post from the Al-Kauthar forums by s student of Tawfique Choudhary's Hilyatu Talibul-Ilm course. [I don't know if this course is still running, the book is written by Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd]. The contents of the questions make you wonder what exactly was taught in the lessons and also shows the confused nature of the student:

    http://forums.alkauthar.org/showthread.php?t=10148

    Assalamu Aleikum Wa Rahmatullah Sheikh Tawfeeq,

    First of all Jazakallahu Khairan for giving us your precious time and teaching us this amazing book. Truely, I myself have seen myself being repelled by knowledgeable people with a bad akhlaq. Inshallah, knowledge from this book will help us represent ourselves in the most perfect manner, the way a true Muslim should.

    I have always had an opinion that once I have enough knowledge, then I would be obliged to choose a Madhab (one of the four) and follow it. However, just recently I met an Imam who criticized Salafis for not having a Madhab and told me to strictly pick one based on my geographical location and follow it blindly. So, I wanted to clarify this weeks topic on being from the Salaf. Therefore, my questions are:

    1) If someone picks a Madhab, let's say Maliki. Would they not be following the Sunnah of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) and the pious predecessors? If yes, then how are they different from the Salaf?

    2) As Salafi, do we believe in all the 4 Madhab and avoid choosing only one?

    3) Do Salafi ever pick one of the four Madhab and do we have to, once we have enough knowledge of the four Madhabs?

    Jazakallahu Khairan for the answers. May Allah continue to reward your efforts and Make it easy for us to represent Islam in the most perfect manner.

    Wassalamu Aleikum,
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    The Jamiatul Ulama South Africa held a 2 day course: Understanding the West and Muslim Response

    Below is the invite and course details:

    Today’s dominance of Western civilisation is well-acknowledged. The ascendancy of Europe out of the Dark Ages was underpinned by the philosophical, social and theological foundations which shaped Western thought.
    Going into the future, it is only natural that the West would like to maintain this dominance of wealth, power and most importantly thought.

    Muslims living in the West can be better equipped to deal with their various challenges of identity as the West tries to condition them through assimilation, integration and multiculturalism.

    What is Muslim responsibility in shaping a better future given these modern day realities?

    This course will attempt to inspire participants to gain insights from history in order to draw lessons from Islamic heritage in dealing with contemporary challenges especially under minority settings.

    The Jamiatul Ulama South Africa invites participants to this two-day educational programme on Undertanding the West and Muslim Response which will be held as follows:

    Venue: FNB Building, Wits University West Campus

    Date: Sat 11 - Sun 12 February 2012

    Participation, Meals and Notes Fee: R300.00

    Guest Resource Person: Ismail Adam Patel of the Friends of Al Aqsa in the UK

    Reservation: By Monday 6 February 2012

    Tel: 011 373 8000

    Fax: 011 373 8022

    Email: ilmi@islamsa.org.za
    And this was the feedback from after the event;

    A total of well over 130 participants to part in the inaugural Knowledge Gateway Series under the auspices of the Jamiatul Ulama South Africa in Johannesburg over the weekend.

    The guest speaker was Brother Ismail Adam Patel of Friends of Al Aqsa in the UK. Brother Patel lectured on the ideologies that have shaped Western thought and how Muslims can responsibly deal with the New World Order.

    Moulana Ebrahim I Bham also lectured in one of the sessions on the topic of Jihad: Meaning and Spirit at this programme which was held between 11 and 12 Feb 2012 at the Wits University’s FNB Building.

    Overall, many participants were heartened that finally the Jamiatul Ulama South Africa was organizing and hosting the lectures which have been envisaged to cover a number of themes in the future, insha-Allah.
    Another course: Dealing the Islamic Way Series was also held in January at Marlboro Masjid. The course deals with Islamic commerce and finance.

    this is a correct move in the right direction. However, this alone is not enough and more is needed other 'Ulama and organisations will join in and see the need. We make dua that more such courses and events are held and may Allah grant success to the endeavors of the 'Ulama.
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    There is no limit to what a man can achieve, as longs as it does not matter who takes the credit for it!


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    Br Afriki_haqq Is Ismail Patel from Friends of Al-Aqsa = Harris Hammam?


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    Quote Originally Posted by faisal ahmad View Post
    Br Afriki_haqq Is Ismail Patel from Friends of Al-Aqsa = Harris Hammam?


    No, Ismail Patel of Friends of Al Aqsa IS NOT Harris Hammam.

    Here is a book by Ismail Patel: Forty Hadith Concerning Masjid al-Aqsa
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