Qadiri Shaykh on the Deobandi maslak?

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The stations of spirituality we experience in Islam especially in Mystics are very significant. Mystical figures like Hazrat Owais Qarni used to talk to Prophet Mohammad pbuh via telepathy. In the beginning they were known as "Ashab-e-Suffa" there used to be a place where all pious and righteous people used to sit and discuss religion that place's name was Suffa, so it actually means the people of Suffa.

Prophet Mohammad pbuh himself declared that the First Generation of the most pious was Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Abu Abdullah and Hazrat Salman Farsi.

The Second Generation included Owais Qarni, Hiran Bin Yahya, Abu Ali Al-Hassan basri, and next came the Third Generation of these mystics which includes Habib-e-Ajmi(disciple of Hassan), Malik ibn Dinar, Abu Hanifa, Dawood Tai, Bishr Hafi, Dhun Nun Misri, Ibrahim Adham, Abu Yazid Bistami, Sarri Saqti (uncle of Junayd Baghdadi), Abu Haffa, Ma'ruf Karkhi and Abul Qasim Junayd.

These three generations and the following generations have devoted each and every moment of their lives to God. It is said that they had extreme rules to follow God and worshiped Him their entire lives and never asked any human for food, shelter, help, clothes or whatever.

They normally wear Kharqas (tattered clothes) and spend life in extreme poverty. Tawassuf comes from a Greek word called “sophos” but western scholars like Professor Arburry and Professor Nicholson have mistakenly proclaimed that Islamic Mysticism comes from Christianity, which however is not a fact.

[London786]

my own shaykh hazrat aziz ul haq db has a separate qadri chain with separate qadri azkaar as follows;

They are not given in one go,once the previous lesson shows its effect,then the next lesson is given while the previous one remains.In the end all are done per day.They are done khafi lisani,neither jahri nor sirri.ie using your tongue but no jahr.The Asbaq are as follows

1) durood sharif 1000 times daily.Durood sharif is: "Allahumma sallae ala syedena Muhammaden wa alehi wa itratihi biadade kulle maloom el lakk"
2) Astaghfirullahallazi la elaha illa hual hyyol qayyumo wa atoobo elaihe 313 times
3)La ilaha illallah....1000 Method:La is taken from qalb first upto right shoulder,Ilaha is taken from Right shoulder horizontally across the head...and Illallah,s dharb is put on qalb.
4) Illallah....1000 ( with dharb on Qalb)
5) Allah......1000 ( with dharb on qalb, ie The Al- of Allah strikes qalb)
6) Hu................1000 ( Huuuoooo....,ie try to take this word as deep inside qalb as possible Like a tight rope going inside a deep well)
6) Allah-Hu......1000 (Dharb of Allah goes inside qalb; Hu comes out of qalb)
7) Hu-Allah.......1000 (Dharb of Hu goes inside qalb; Allah comes out of qalb)
8) Antal Hadi Antal Haqq,Laisal Hadi illa hu, (The dharb here is only on Haq,the rest is said normally)
9) Zikre Qalbi 'Isme Zat' with habse dam.This is called Muraqeba in Qadria.

These are all "Asbaq"or lessons of Qadria.The rest is to be experience.

[London786]

Another chain of the deobandi qadri mashaikh.

From Tanzim ul haq halimi ra.
From syed Saif ur rehman gul badshah bukhari (Mekh band ba ba jee)ra
From Shah Muhammad Younus ra
From Shah Yahya Gul ra
From Shah Qareeb ullah ra
From Shah Muhammmad Sadiq ra
From Kaka jee Masood Ur Rahman ra
From BaBa Jee Muhammad Ali ra
From Khwaja Muhammad Masoom ra
From Mujaddad Alfi Thani Shaikh Ahmad Sarhandi ra
From. Shah Sikandar Kethali ra
From. Shah Kamal Kethali ra
From Syed Shah Fazil Qadri ra
From Shah Gada Rahman thani ra
From. Shaikh Shamsuddin Arif ra
From. Shaikh Gada Rahman Awwal ra
From. Shaikh Abul Hasan Ali ra
From. Shaikh Shamsuddin Sehrai ra
From. Syed Aqeel Kookani ra
From. Syed Baha ud din Kamil ra
From. Syed abdul wahab ra
From. Syed Sharf ud din Qattal ra
From. Syed Abdul Razzaq Jeelani ra
From Gothe azam,Qutube Rabbani,Mehboob e Subhani Syed Abdul Qadir jeelani ra
From. Shaikh Abu Saeed Mubarak ra
From. Shaikh Abul Hasan Ali ra
From. Shaikh Abul Farah Tartoosi ra
From. Shaikh Abdul wahid ra
From. Shaikh Abu Bakar Shibli ra
From. Khwaja Junaid Baghdadi ra
From. Khwaja siri siqti ra
From. Khwaja Maroof Karkhi ra
From. Shaikh Daud Tai ra
From. Khaja Habib Ajami ra
From. Imam Hasan Basri ra
From Ameer ul momeneen Syedena Ali raz anho
From. Syed ul mursaleen Muhammad sallallaho alaihe wa sallam

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I want somebody please to reply to this, I am a Hanafi Muslim and I follow the Barelvi maslak, I would like to ask:

1) What Maslak was being followed before the arrival of Wahabism???
2) Is it OK to pray (offering Salat) behind a Wahabi Imam???

However I have no intentions to create schism or friction of any kind by asking these questions, Thanks

[abdulwahhab]

I want somebody please to reply to this, I am a Hanafi Muslim and I follow the Barelvi maslak, I would like to ask:

1) What Maslak was being followed before the arrival of Wahabism???
2) Is it OK to pray (offering Salat) behind a Wahabi Imam???

However I have no intentions to create schism or friction of any kind by asking these questions, Thanks

For your first question, you'd have to define by location. And even today, you have to do the same, because some areas of the Muslim world follow the Deobandi maslak without knowing anything about it and some are closer to the Barelvis without knowing anything about it.

As for number 2, I don't know of anyone besides the Barelvis who say that a Wahhabi is a kaafir and prayer behind him is not valid. If you want to stick to the Barelvi maslak and you don't wish to create divisions, you're going to have to against the Barelvi maslak because the founder of the Barelvi maslak is notorious for takfeer and causing divisions. That is why Barelvis are not allowed to pray behind the Imam of Ka'bah or at Masjid an-Nabawi - there was even a famous recent episode where Owais Qadri, a Barelvi naat khawan, was expelled and banned from Saudi Arabia for forming his own salah jamaat when the Imam of the masjid was leading salah.

So, in short, for number 2: everyone but the Barelvis and those that share identical beliefs with them say that salah behind a Wahhabi is invalid since they make takfeer of Wahhabis, whereas the majority are of the opinion that the Wahhabis are deviants but not kaafir and such salah behind them is permissible but not optimal.

[Acacia]

السلام عليكم
Brother, can you or someone knowledgeable provide the salient features possibly in bulleted points for each Silsila in order for layman like me to know the points of differences in each Silsila of Turuk?

Is there an answer to this somewhere on the forum? If so, could someone please link to it here. If not, answers would be very much appreciated - bullet form as suggested by the brother or a link... something relatively short and to-the-point, neat and tidy, and easy to understand for most people looking for answers.

[zahed73]

السلام عليكم
Brother, can you or someone knowledgeable provide the salient features possibly in bulleted points for each Silsila in order for layman like me to know the points of differences in each Silsila of Turuk?

Ditto .

Also I like to learn about known Qaderi tariqa shykhs in dhaka , bangladesh as well .

[dr76]

I have noticed that most Sufi shaykhs from the Indo-Pak area seem to have ijazas in multiple silsilas - often the four well-known ones. However, the shaykhs who are Deobandi in maslak most often seem to be teaching mostly Chishti or Naqshbandi silsilas, whereas a lot of Barelwis seem to be Qadiris.

My question:

Are there any (Deobandi maslak) shaykhs who mainly teach the Qadiri silsila?

Hazrat Maulana Usman sahab Madani db Khalifa of Hazrat Dr. Abdus Salam sahab db who got khilafat from Hazrat Maulana Khalifa Ghulam Rasool sahab of Dera Ismail Khan ( khalifa of Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Ali lahori sahab ) has strong Qadiri Nisbat and teaches it along with chistiyya and Naqshbandiya Sulook.. depending on the temperament of the saalik..

Hazrat Maulana Usman sahab db is an old daee.. who had his tarbiyyat initially by Hazrat Shaikhul Hadees Maulana Zakariyya Sahab Kandhelwi and then by Hazratji Maulana Inamul Hasan .. Hazratji (rah) had advised him to gain the Qadriyya nisbat from Hazrat Khalifa Ghulam Rasool sahab .. Hazrat Maulana Usman sahab db also has khilafat from my Shaikh Hazrat Miyanji Abdur Rahman sahab db of Markaz Nizamuddin.

u can read more here..

duas..

wa assalam..

[taalib_e_ilm]

Hazrat Mufti Nawalur Rahman saheb (db) explains both Chishti and Qadari uloom in his majaalis. They can be heard on Rahmat-e-Alam website.

http://www.rahmatealam.com/category/...rs-e-tasawwuf/

[zahed73]

Ditto .

Also I like to learn about known Qaderi tariqa shykhs in dhaka , bangladesh as well .

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