Fatwa Alamgiri - Can some scholar explain.

[mohtashims]

Found this text on Shia and Ghair Mukallid websites.

"If someone marries five women at a time or marries a fifth woman while already having four wives or marries his sister in law or mother in law and then performs intercourse with her and then says that I knew that it is haram for me or performs nikah al mutah with a woman then there will be no plenty of adultery on him in all of these situations though he confessed that he knew it was haram on him"

Fatwa Alamgiri, Volume 3 page 264

Can some scholar justify and explain this to the ummah?

[mohtashims]

Would any brother have any clue to this statement in Fatawa Alamgiri ?

[Amaan]

Did you see such thing personally in Fataawa Alamgiri book. Before posting this you should have done that already.

[maneatinglizard]

Why is this in the Aqeeda section?

It should be in the Fiqh section.

[AimeSi]

Did you see such thing personally in Fataawa Alamgiri book. Before posting this you should have done that already.

Maybe the brother, like myself for example, has no direct acces to the book ? So he just can't take it and look at it.
So he asked for someone who has the book to check it and to confirm if this fatwa is effectively in Fataawa Alamgiri or not or if it is in it but has been distorted. And if the fatwa is in it, he just wants some knowledgeable people to tell him how to deal with.

Wallâhu A'lam.

[mohtashims]

Sorry i dont know URDU language very well.

But here is the scan.

http://www.ahnafexpose.com/biwi_ke_b...aur_jamaa.html

Can someone please clarify ?

[mohtashims]

Assalamu alaykum

What is the salafee and shia view on this.

Should this case be dealt as adultery and punishment of adultery (hadd) should be given?

I am not sure about the salafi and shia stance on this. But does the scan read exactly as what I have pasted below ?

"If someone marries five women at a time or marries a fifth woman while already having four wives or marries his sister in law or mother in law and then performs intercourse with her and then says that I knew that it is haram for me or performs nikah al mutah with a woman then there will be no plenty of adultery on him in all of these situations though he confessed that he knew it was haram on him"

Fatwa Alamgiri, Volume 3 page 264

If so, to me

1. If someone marries five women at a time: I understood that there is permission of only 4 marriages.

2. or marries a fifth woman while already having four wives: I understood that there is permission of only 4 marriages.

3. or marries his sister in law or mother in law and then performs intercourse with her and then says that I knew that it is haram for me: I dont think Hanafi Mazhab permits marriage / intercourse with sister in law or mother in law unless his wife is divorced or dead.

4. or performs nikah al mutah with a woman: I understand that Hanafi Mazhab also did not permit Nikah al Mutah.

Please help explain.

[mohtashims]

Ok looks like this thread is staling here, do I open this query in the Fiqh section of the forum inorder to get some attention ?

Can some please help answers to this Fatwa ?

[Ansari]

The translation is wrong. Key word here is "hadd." It does not say "no penalty of adultery" rather it says HADD will not apply, which does not mean he will not be punished, rather he will be given ta'dhir. Hanafi books mention penalties for such crimes.

An old accusation answered long ago.

[mohtashims]

The translation is wrong. Key word here is "hadd." It does not say "no penalty of adultery" rather it says HADD will not apply, which does not mean he will not be punished, rather he will be given ta'dhir. Hanafi books mention penalties for such crimes.

An old accusation answered long ago.

JazakAllah Brother Ansari,

Can you please answer the below.

1. What is the difference between "HADD" and "Penalty".

2. What is the meaning of ta'dhir.

3. "An old accusation answered long ago." Why can i then not find it anywhere on the web. Are such answers uploaded ? May I have some links ?

Sorry for being "naive".