Was Ibn Taymiyyah From Ahl al-Sunna Wa Al-Jama'a? - Online book

[aMuslimForLife]

it is not the issue of Ashari or not Ashari. the issue here is to instigate muslims against other muslims and look down upon muslims of different orientation or thought. This trait is not exclusive to any group but you will find it in all groups. You will find some ascribing themselves to Salafis and attacking hanafis & imam abu hanifa, you will find the opposite where some ascribe themselves to imam ashari and attack hanbalis.

The solution: anyone trying to ignite fitnah must be put to shame.

That is the reason this is happening to begin with... the Salafis have bashed the traditional Ulama.... and because of that, the traditional Ulama are trying to put ibn Taymiyyah to shame for being the source of the fitna....

Don't know how that is the solution...

[dr.ati]

The only response to a book with such a title can be a "LOL" .

[AbdurRaheem2]

it is not the issue of Ashari or not Ashari. the issue here is to instigate muslims against other muslims and look down upon muslims of different orientation or thought. This trait is not exclusive to any group but you will find it in all groups. You will find some ascribing themselves to Salafis and attacking hanafis & imam abu hanifa, you will find the opposite where some ascribe themselves to imam ashari and attack hanbalis.

The solution: anyone trying to ignite fitnah must be put to shame.

that sounds like a good idea

[faizanakram99]

Mulla Ali Qari said "whosoever will see Madarijul Saalikeen written by hafiz ibn qayyim (Sharah of Manazilus - saaireen) , it will be clear to him that both Ibn Tayyimah and Ibn Qayyim were not only among ahle sunnat wal jamaat but also among the awliya of this ummah" ...! _______taken from Tasawuff kya hai "Maulana Manzoor Nomani "

[Ahlussunnah]

Here is a book " Allama Ibn Taymiya Aur unke hum Asr Ulema " By Hazrat Maulana Shah Abul Hassan Zaid Farroqi sahab , Fazil Jamia Azhar, Egypt.
a renowned Naqshbandi Mujaddidi shaikh and scholar, who was also the then incharge of Khankah Hazrat Mirza Mazhar Jan Janan sahab .

The book provides a balanced view with a comprehensive insight on his life and works and the places where he erred. i really wish someone translates this book. consists of 124 pages. its not easily available outside. i bought it from the blessed khankah of Hazrat Mirza Mazhar Jan Janan sahab (rah) at Delhi.

The book opens with Reviews from Hazrat Maulana Abdul Majid Daryabadi sahab and Maulana Saeed Ahmed Akbarabadi (rah). at the end is an English review by the latter.

i wish someone like Maulana Ashraf Dockrat sahab ../ Colonel sahab.. / Bhai Abu Tamim .. / Bhai Maripat ../ Bhai Afriki Haq or anyone interested considers its translation... i shall send the copy free of charge

Here are the scans of its Reviews.

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duas..

wa assalam..

Assalamu'alaikum

I won't call it a balanced view. The book is full of bigotry, just like his another book against Shah Ismail Dehlavi. In both of these books he tried to appear as a just writer but he did nothing but to reproduce old arguments of Kawtharites and Barelvis. In his book on Ibn Taymiyyah he followed the theory of Kawthari that scholars praised him before his controversial verdicts. This he said after claiming to have read the book ar-Radd al-Wafir, which contain the statements given by scholars long time after the death of Shaykhul Islam. He also brought the issue of Dhahabi's Nasiha. I think Qaunavi did a great job, and hopefuls with the time this issue will soon rest in peace.
After reading the book i feel this Shaykh have no idea regarding the uloom of Ibn Taymiyyah, and that he only relied on his critics. It is clear that he wants to downgrad ibn Taymiyyah although he couldn't do so in clear words.
He did the same thing against Shah Ismail Dehlavi when he represented him as a person responsible for the division in Ummah. People of Khanqah should leave the way for the mujaddidin, as by criticizing them they would only be collecting harm for their akhirah. Wassalaam

[dr76]

Assalamu'alaikum

I won't call it a balanced view. The book is full of bigotry, just like his another book against Shah Ismail Dehlavi. In both of these books he tried to appear as a just writer but he did nothing but to reproduce old arguments of Kawtharites and Barelvis. In his book on Ibn Taymiyyah he followed the theory of Kawthari that scholars praised him before his controversial verdicts. This he said after claiming to have read the book ar-Radd al-Wafir, which contain the statements given by scholars long time after the death of Shaykhul Islam. He also brought the issue of Dhahabi's Nasiha. I think Qaunavi did a great job, and hopefuls with the time this issue will soon rest in peace.
After reading the book i feel this Shaykh have no idea regarding the uloom of Ibn Taymiyyah, and that he only relied on his critics. It is clear that he wants to downgrad ibn Taymiyyah although he couldn't do so in clear words.
He did the same thing against Shah Ismail Dehlavi when he represented him as a person responsible for the division in Ummah. People of Khanqah should leave the way for the mujaddidin, as by criticizing them they would only be collecting harm for their akhirah. Wassalaam

I have posted the reviews of Mufassir e Qur'an Hazrat Maulana Abdul Majid Daryabadi sahab and Hazrat Maulana Saeed Ahmed Akbarabadi sahab.. thanks but we never asked for ur review.

i feel this Shaykh have no idea regarding the uloom of Ibn Taymiyyah

and all his uloom have only dawned upon the pseudo hanbalites (salafis- madkhalis to be precise), sadly we know who the bigots are..

It is clear that he wants to downgrad ibn Taymiyyah although he couldn't do so in clear words.

u may apply that to anyone who disagree with shaikhul islam

People of Khanqah should leave the way for the mujaddidin

to dispell ur ignorance.. the people of khankah were infact the Mujaddidin since many centuries..from Hazrat Mujaddid Alf Thani.. Hazrat Shah waliullah Muhaddith Dehlwi.. Hazrat Sayyid Ahmed Shaheed.. Hazrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi.. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Ilyas..(rahmatullahi alaihi ajmaen) were all from the khanqah.. and not from any dawah center..

wa assalam..

[Ahlussunnah]

Assalamu'alaikum...

I have posted the reviews of Mufassir e Qur'an Hazrat Maulana Abdul Majid Daryabadi sahab and Hazrat Maulana Saeed Ahmed Akbarabadi sahab.. thanks but we never asked for ur review.

I don't think i need anyone's permission to express my views.
As for names, then i can provide names in favour of Ibn Taymiyyah in front of whom these names of the two reviewers and author will be of no weight. The truth is not known through people... But unfortunately nowadays it is all about ''my Shaykh, my madrasa, my sect''.

and all his uloom have only dawned upon the pseudo hanbalites (salafis- madkhalis to be precise), sadly we know who the bigots are..

If by pseudo-hanbalites you mean Dhahabi, Ibn Katheer, Ibn Sayyidunnas, Birzali, Bulqini, abul baqa subki, imaduddin, ibn rajab etc then yes you are right.
And may Allah increase you more in knowledge.

u may apply that to anyone who disagree with shaikhul islam

A lot of those who praised him also disagreed with him but they did not downgrad him. Its not about disagreeing with him, its about attacking his status as Imam.

to dispell ur ignorance.. the people of khankah were infact the Mujaddidin since many centuries..from Hazrat Mujaddid Alf Thani.. Hazrat Shah waliullah Muhaddith Dehlwi.. Hazrat Sayyid Ahmed Shaheed.. Hazrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi.. Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Ilyas..(rahmatullahi alaihi ajmaen) were all from the khanqah.. and not from any dawah center..

I am not sure if you meant Ibn Taymiya and Shah Ismail were from some Dawa centre, and neither did i say anything about Dawa centre. Besides there is a huge difference between doing the actual works of tajdid and writing books against Awliya who were real mujaddideen. I wonder how many of deobandi scholars signed the other book of Maulana Faruqi against Shah Ismail. And i wonder when will you be working on its translation. But, if Allah willed, i will compile some notes of the mistakes of Ml Faruqi against these two Ulama.

[Ahlussunnah]

Do you know the name of the book in which the bolded part is discussed?

Assalamu'alaikum

it is an answer to the questions of Shaykh Mu'een Sindhi (who later turned out to be a tafdhili shia, and an anti-ibn taymiya kind of scholar), the author of Darasat al Labib. It is included in the collection of biographies of ibn taymiyya by Uzair Shams. It is also quoted in full by Bashir Sialkoti in his book on the biography of Shah Waliyullah.

[dr76]

Assalamu'alaikum...



I don't think i need anyone's permission to express my views.
As for names, then i can provide names in favour of Ibn Taymiyyah in front of whom these names of the two reviewers and author will be of no weight. The truth is not known through people... But unfortunately nowadays it is all about ''my Shaykh, my madrasa, my sect''.



If by pseudo-hanbalites you mean Dhahabi, Ibn Katheer, Ibn Sayyidunnas, Birzali, Bulqini, abul baqa subki, imaduddin, ibn rajab etc then yes you are right.
And may Allah increase you more in knowledge.




A lot of those who praised him also disagreed with him but they did not downgrad him. Its not about disagreeing with him, its about attacking his status as Imam.




I am not sure if you meant Ibn Taymiya and Shah Ismail were from some Dawa centre, and neither did i say anything about Dawa centre. Besides there is a huge difference between doing the actual works of tajdid and writing books against Awliya who were real mujaddideen. I wonder how many of deobandi scholars signed the other book of Maulana Faruqi against Shah Ismail. And i wonder when will you be working on its translation. But, if Allah willed, i will compile some notes of the mistakes of Ml Faruqi against these two Ulama.

The truth is not known through people

The Truth is always transmitted through pure hearts..and we have received it from the Noble Prophet to this day and era..ru still in doubt mister..

But unfortunately nowadays it is all about ''my Shaykh, my madrasa, my sect''.

do u mean to say the ones who crow My Ibn Taymiyyah.. My Albani and My Bin Baaz.. (rahmatullahi alaihim ajmaen).. who would disagree bro..

If by pseudo-hanbalites you mean Dhahabi

i told u whom i mean.. save ur imagination..

may Allah increase you more in knowledge.

May Allah give us taufeeq to practice upon what we already know.. and sit with ulema e haq to humbly learn what we do not know...

its about attacking his status as Imam

and what is his status as an Imam that u want to defend.. im sure this zeal is not going the Rafidhi way.. ( there was a thread somewhere on that..)

I am not sure if you meant Ibn Taymiya and Shah Ismail were from some Dawa centre

No they weren't.. Hazrat Maulana Shah Ismail Shaheed was also from the khanqah.. and Shaikhul Islam also held in high esteem the renowned sufis of his time..

I wonder how many of deobandi scholars signed the other book of Maulana Faruqi against Shah Ismail.And i wonder when will you be working on its translation. But, if Allah willed, i will compile some notes of the mistakes of Ml Faruqi against these two Ulama

frankly i havent come across his work on Hazrat Maulana Shah Ismail Shaheed sahab (rah)..please post some scans if u can beginning with foreword.. and save the trouble of compiling.. sorry to say but the academic dishonesty of Indo-pak salafis is quite phenomenal..

wa assalam..