Imam of Harams leading Esha while on travel

[Abu_Uzair]

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when imam is musafir(Traveller) and muqtadi are muqim in isha and Asar salat,so when muqim muqtadi stand up after imam's salam,they cant recite any thing in those 2 rakats,only stant up(like duration of 1 big aayat or 3 small aayah or 3 tasbih)

[ImamGhazzaali]

What are other 'Ulamaa's thoughts on the article by the Majlis?

Also, some of the Hanafis do not practicethe opinion of Imam's Salah valid according to the follower is not necessary.

I am interested in what other scholars have said.

[nike89x]

Bismihee Ta'aal

Asalamualaikum


I don't really know much about The Majlis and the situation in SA, so I just had a few questions:

1. Is The Masjlis well respected by majority of the ulema in SA?

2. What do the other Deobandi Ulema have to say about the Imam visiting?

3. I saw that Deoband invited Imam Sudais and had him lead Jumuah Salaah. What about this then?

[ImamGhazzaali]

1. Is The Masjlis well respected by majority of the ulema in SA?

Many people tend to avoid Majlis in stuff.
People respect them but many tend to be wary of them.

[sudoku]

Ulama in South Africa in general respect Moulana A S Desai. They may not agree with some of his academic stances or with his harsh tone but they still respect him nonetheless.

Today I was listening to a discourse of Mufti Ebrahim Salejee saheb. He was mentioning that a person should respect an 'aalim, even if that 'aalim may err in some way or the other. Even if you do not agree with an 'aalim's views etc, the respect should remain there as he is doing the work of Deen. Leave the 'aalim to his deeds and you keep to yourself and follow those you believe are right. Disrespecting an 'aalim, especially if he is a Wali of Allah can have dire consequences.

Mufti Saheb mentioned about a person who accused Moulana Maseehullah of being against Tableeghi Jamaat. Moulana did not pay attention to this accusation. However this man's life began deteriorating, starting from leaving the beard, to sunnah clothing, to even salaah. His family life was shattering. Finally someone told him to apologize to Moulana Maseehullah and he realized that all his problems began when he had disrespected the Shaykh. Moulana Maseehullah received the letter and was too humble to acknowledge that this drastic change came to the man because of the insult. However the man's life once again changed, for the better.

[SASLAMS]

guys just dont go to the masjids that will be hosting the Imaam, I decided long ago that if it so happens that Im' there then so be it but Im not going to run around for a man, he is but a man, his salah will not raise yours one bit. then ontop of that you travel past 2 or 3 masajid just to get to the masjid that his at, leaving the sunnah of the closest masjid.

but you know what this will go on for ever because people are gugu gaga over these famous imaams. & its more because we atracted to the dhahir & not to the baatin.

[At Tayyib]

guys just dont go to the masjids that will be hosting the Imaam, I decided long ago that if it so happens that Im' there then so be it but Im not going to run around for a man, he is but a man, his salah will not raise yours one bit. then ontop of that you travel past 2 or 3 masajid just to get to the masjid that his at, leaving the sunnah of the closest masjid.

but you know what this will go on for ever because people are gugu gaga over these famous imaams. & its more because we atracted to the dhahir & not to the baatin.

Good point. Only if the people showed the same respect for the Haram, as much as they respect the Imam of Haram.

If one goes to the Haram, one will be appalled at the transgressions committed by the masses of the Muslims. It just so paining.

[sudoku]

guys just dont go to the masjids that will be hosting the Imaam, I decided long ago that if it so happens that Im' there then so be it but Im not going to run around for a man, he is but a man, his salah will not raise yours one bit. then ontop of that you travel past 2 or 3 masajid just to get to the masjid that his at, leaving the sunnah of the closest masjid.

but you know what this will go on for ever because people are gugu gaga over these famous imaams. & its more because we atracted to the dhahir & not to the baatin.

That is a good point.

Monday after 'Ishaa salaah one of the Imam of the masjid announced that there would be a small talk on the great sahaba Muaz bin Jabal by a great scholar. I am sure all the listeners wondered who was this great scholar, maybe expecting someone out of town. The Imam then continued and mentioned the name of the main Imam of our masjid, Moulana Ahmad Chohan, who indeed is a very great person . I admit I laughed but felt ashamed, and immediately the thought came to my mind

"Ghar ki murghi daal barabar" ie "The chicken curry of the house is like lentils".

We should appreciate the imam of our own localities who do so much work for the Masjid and the community in general.

[skhkmomin]

Why shouldnt we be visiting the masajid where the imams are invited ? Who made them Imam ? If they have been blessed to have lead the prayer in the best place on earth doesnt that make them special. Dont forget that Allah SWT willed for that person to be an imam for so many years, so he must be doing something good even if it doesnt match with our definitions of good.

It seems strange that we are ready to accept the lofty status of ulema who having been teaching in madaris or khanqahs. But the same doesnt apply for people who are leading the ummah in the foremost ibadah in the best place on earth.

So many times I see people flocking to masajid where our elders are invited. Does that make the salah virtuous ? No but still we do it. Why these double standards.

[Abu_Tamim]

Why shouldnt we be visiting the masajid where the imams are invited ? Who made them Imam ? If they have been blessed to have lead the prayer in the best place on earth doesnt that make them special. Dont forget that Allah SWT willed for that person to be an imam for so many years, so he must be doing something good even if it doesnt match with our definitions of good.

It seems strange that we are ready to accept the lofty status of ulema who having been teaching in madaris or khanqahs. But the same doesnt apply for people who are leading the ummah in the foremost ibadah in the best place on earth.

So many times I see people flocking to masajid where our elders are invited. Does that make the salah virtuous ? No but still we do it. Why these double standards.

I must say that I agree there.