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    seeing that it is near the end of school/college/university there will be many end of year parties and proms. This is a short explanation from a few people as to what actually happens in these so called times of having fun.

    The Prom: Not Just One Night of Haram
    By Samana Siddiqui, Courtesy of Islamzine
    ”On the dance floor, this Muslim brother came up to me and said ‘Whoa, [my name] I didn’t know you danced!’ And then he danced off.” -an anonymous Muslim sister’s Prom Night experience, from the Salam newsletter, Montreal, Canada, Summer 1995
    “It’s a night when you don’t remember Allah,” says Amber Rehman, 20, about Prom night. “As a Muslim, that’s very hurting and corrosive for the soul.”

    The Prom is a yearly social event commemorating students’ completion of high school.

    While this in itself may seem like a good reason to celebrate, other activities at the Prom indicate it’s not just about academic achievement.

    Sex, drugs, rockn’ roll and lots of alcohol are four crucial elements of Prom night. But it doesn’t stop there. Ask Shaema Imam, 21, who attended her 1994 Prom.

    “It’s not just the drinking, it’s not just the hotel room and sex part, it ‘s the whole atmosphere that’s created where alcohol, dancing and varying degrees of nudity are correlated with a good time,” says the McGill University student.

    It is also big business.

    “[The] Prom isn’t about North American society wanting its youth to turn into well-adjusted people via grad night,” says Imam. “In fact, this is a multimillion dollar business of selling clothes, accessories, make up, limousine services, food, alcohol, condoms. You need to realize what this is all about.”

    Prom night often starts off with dinner at a hotel organized by the high school. But that’s tame compared to what happens afterwards.

    Many of the students head off to clubs, where mixed dancing and plenty of alcohol and drugs are part of the scene.

    “Once this clubbing starts, the true face of the Kaffir party is exposed,” says Imam “This part is the part not officially sanctioned by the high school.”

    Imam says students in her graduating class rented a club called The Underground for the post-dinner part of the Prom. She says she was disgusted by the club scene and compared it to Hell, describing it as smoky, dark and unsafe.

    Alcohol : No Prom Without It
    </LEFT>“Everybody becomes so drunk,” says Shadi Sakr about the Prom.
    The 22-year-old recounted how a fellow student became so drunken that when he saw Sakr the year after high school graduation, he kept insisting Sakr was in the limousine with him during Prom night.

    Sakr did not even go to his Prom.

    He discovered the details of the evening from his friends who went.

    “Once they’re drunk your non-Muslims friends are no longer nice-people-who-happen-to-not-be-Muslims,” says Imam.

    “This is the point at which you realize that there is a fundamental difference between you and them. You are a Muslim and they are willing participants in this aspect of North American culture. This is where your Fitrah really kicks in,” she says.

    Alcohol was also one reason Ali Shayan, 20, did not go to his Prom.

    “I didn’t go to the graduation or the prom because I had just started practicing [Islam],” he says. “The fact that there was alcohol and you had to go with a date, because of those reasons I didn’t want to go.”

    But alcohol can lead to more than making a fool of yourself on the dance floor: it could lead to death. According to the group Mothers Against Drunk Driving (M.A.D.D.), in 1995, 48.7 percent of traffic fatalities that occurred during the first week of the prom were alcohol related.

    Sex: Prom Night Is The Night For It
    </LEFT>While dealing with the opposite sex in school should be related to learning, “Prom night is a night to kick back and relax,” says Rehman. “Islamically, you’re not supposed to kick back and relax with the opposite gender.”
    “I was worried there would be fornication,” says Sakr, explaining why he did not attend his Prom.

    He added youth losing their virginity on Prom night is one of the foci of the evening.

    ”It’s the night where you become an adult, supposedly,” he says.

    Hotel rooms are rented, in most cases for this very purpose.

    In particular, clubs are where students “practice all [those] ‘girl-guy’ moves,” according to Imam and the situation is even more dangerous because they are most often under the influence of alcohol.

    The Build Up & Let Down Of Prom Night
    “It’s supposed to be the gala event of your life,” says Sakr of the Prom. “Non-Muslims literally worship this evening. They hype the gala event.”
    “There’s a whole building of an anticipatory culture around ‘the night’,” explains Imam.

    Indeed, youth are bombarded through magazines, websites, television sitcoms, advertisements, and general peer pressure to participate in this most “essential” of teenage rituals.

    Even parents who are strict with their children tend to loosen up for Prom night.

    “This is the pinnacle of the night for you to go out and do what you want and non-Muslim parents let their children do whatever they want [that night],” says Sakr.

    “The whole year, people were getting their licenses, deciding on what clothes they wanted to wear. Reserving their appointments six months in advance for the hair salon,” he adds.

    But the experience of and letdown from the Prom are much greater.

    “It’s almost impossible for any experience to live up to that build-up,” says Imam.

    “This whole night there’s [an] aura of high class escapism, but the day before the Prom and the day after you’re still the same, unsure teen,” she says, adding it makes it seem almost like you have nothing to look forward to anymore.

    ”The next morning I went home on the city bus,” she says. “It’s almost like turning back into Cinderella’s pumpkin.”

    Intense Peer Pressure To Go To The Prom
    </LEFT>“When in Rome do as the Romans do and that’s very true of the high school experience,” says Imam
    The peer pressure to go to the Prom is intense.

    “I had to be very firm and have a very forward opinion on it,” says Rehman about telling her friends she was not going to participate. “If I let myself, I could have been persuaded.”

    Peer pressure is often the deciding factor for a Muslim youth about whether to go to the Prom or not.

    “It depends on how dear you hold your non-Muslim friends,” says Sakr. “I would say most guys would follow the group. “

    Halfway Measures To The Prom
    </LEFT>Some Muslim youth want to go to the Prom not for the sex, drugs, alcohol or rockn’roll, but simply to have a good time with their friends. They have no intention of approaching these aspects of the evening.
    While on the surface, this may seem acceptable, the reality is very different.

    “You’re seeing people you’ve spent the last five years [in some parts of Canada, high school is for five years] of your life with in their worst behavior, and you’re rationalizing it,” says Sakr of this kind of reasoning.

    “It’s really hard to have a halfway thing,” says Imam.

    “There’s no way your Muslim child can just go there and be a wallflower and not be affected,” she warns parents.

    ”Once you’re there, you can’t say ‘I refuse to participate in your evil kind of entertainment’,” says Imam, adding that most youth would probably feel it’s rude to leave.

    “If you think that you can protect yourself, then you’re entrusting yourself to your own weakness,” says Rehman. She adds that Allah warns against even going near Zina. With the Prom, you’re not only going near that, but also near alcohol and drugs.

    “You’re bearing witness to the Haram and ask yourself, if you were to die there, how would you face Allah, that this is the last time you would be with your friends?” asks Sakr.

    One Night of Jahilyyah, And Never Again!
    </LEFT>”Perhaps, just for one night I could pretend to be a regular Western teenage girl, dress up beautifully, make my hair and make up, dance, have fun, and then, WAllah, I promise, I swear to God, I’ll act like a Muslim forever after,?” wrote an anonymous Muslim youth in the Summer 1995 issue of the Montreal, Canada newsletter Salam, rationalizing her choice to go to her Prom.
    “Many Muslim youth may be tempted to think that this night is their last foray into the Jahiliyyah culture,” says Imam.

    But the result of this approach could be deadly: it could mean never coming back to Islam.

    Or, judging from the statistics on traffic fatalities, not coming back alive.

    “When I weigh the pros and cons of what happened, my Deen is still here and if I had had fun that night I would have forgotten easily,” says Rehman.

    The Prom Night Bubble Bursts
    </LEFT>Apart from the letdown from the gigantic hype, Prom night turns out to be a bust for many.
    Although Sakr says the day of the prom, he just stayed home, was bored, and “sort of regretted the fun that I could have had,” he later found out almost everyone at his Prom was drunk, there was too much craziness in the hotels, and some people got kicked out.

    The Prom is a major test for Muslim youth. It represents the struggle against some of the very basic elements of what is defined as a “good time” in North American teenage culture.

    Muslim parents and communities need to work together to recognize and help the youth fight against these pressures.
    Innamal A'malu binniyaat - Actions are according to intentions


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    Some strange tag usage in that article..

    American proms sound somewhat strange - ours was just a black tie dinner at a fancy hotel followed by reminiscing the night away. Then again, we were posh brits. Ahh, memories..

    This piece did remind me of this article however.. Intriguing.


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    Aaah, the fond memories... I remember my college leaving prom... I spent it at home.

    for the article, though as Mossy said, some odd fotmatting tags.



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    Assalamu alaikum wr wb

    JazakuAllahkhairun for both articles, though you still see musilms going and saying nothing is wrong with it.
    they dont really realize until years later, it hits them of how wrong it was to attend these things.. they'll use excuses such as well you go to school, and you work, and you go to the store and its mixed? that still doesnt give you the excuse to go out dancing...
    just cuz A and B does it doesnt mean the others such as C and D should follow...even though they do follow. lol.

    Well I was born and raised in Toronto...and I never attended my junior nor my senior prom which was way back in 91 and 92. I missed it. My family were planning on allowing me to go, but my brother put them straight out of whats to come at the prom. At that time I did not realize or care though now im glad he stopped it. My non muslim friends went and they told me how bad it was...

    and you can tell from the movies that it really has not changed.. still same agenda..
    party, drink, fornicate..have fun... that's their agenda...

    unless a sisters hold a sisters only gathering and put on the halal music and let no guys in whatsoever
    and dont have alcohol there, nor fornicate.. then it should be fine...
    but even holding a muslims one where its muslim guys and gals.. even if they're not all straight or whatever still wrong is wrong...

    maybe one day these ppl will wake up and realize that its just a big waste of time. You can go out make dhikr instead of partying up and bicker.


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    , thank God there's no such thing as proms @ madrassah.


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    There is a leavers party in a muslim school in Leicester and these leaflets were given out to everyone. so if theres anyone from Leicester here please spread the word.

    Awake ‘O’ Muslim

    Moat Year 11 Leavers Dinner Party
    Wednesday 23rd June
    At the Grand Hotel (6-11pm)

    Your local school Moat Community College has organised an event that will destroy the Imaan of our children.

    O you who believe save yourselves and your families from a fire (hell), whose fuel is men and stones. (Quran)

    DO NOT LET YOUR CHILD ATTEND THIS FUNCTION, IT IS NOT JUST A DINNER AS IT WILL INCLUDE:

    § Mixing of sexes (boy and girl partners)
    § Music – Disco-Dancing-DJ
    § Immodest clothing
    § Alcohol
    § A comedian (who makes a mockery of islam)

    Save the Imaan; of your child / our children by:
    Stopping our own children attending this function.
    Phone the school in protest on (0116) 2625705 and
    demand cancellation of this function.
    Innamal A'malu binniyaat - Actions are according to intentions


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    Hmm.. This strikes me at first sight as being something of an overreaction..

    Firstly, as it is year 11, I am assuming it is GCSE leavers (ie 16 year olds). Therefore no alcohol can be supplied by the organisers or they would be actively breaking the law. Is the comedian in question an actively anti-Islam one? People generally dress up like penguins for events like this and you can always leave before the music plays..

    Still, the main part that doesn't quite strike me right is: "demand cancellation of this function". Ask your kids not to go and ensure they know why, sure.. But demand cancellation for the rest? (I'm assuming this isn't a muslim school) That seems a little over the top..

    What would be better is to raise awareness with the organisers of the problems at hand and to suggest in future that they may wish to provide some alternatives to people who would not feel comfortable in such an environment - constructive dialogue..


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    Quote Originally Posted by eat-halal guy
    , thank God there's no such thing as proms @ madrassah.


    likewise with an islamic scool

    n yeah omar ill pass the msg on to moat students when i get hold of em

    wassalam


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    Assalamu Alaikum,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mossy
    Hmm.. This strikes me at first sight as being something of an overreaction..

    Firstly, as it is year 11, I am assuming it is GCSE leavers (ie 16 year olds). Therefore no alcohol can be supplied by the organisers or they would be actively breaking the law. Is the comedian in question an actively anti-Islam one? People generally dress up like penguins for events like this and you can always leave before the music plays..

    Still, the main part that doesn't quite strike me right is: "demand cancellation of this function". Ask your kids not to go and ensure they know why, sure.. But demand cancellation for the rest? (I'm assuming this isn't a muslim school) That seems a little over the top..

    What would be better is to raise awareness with the organisers of the problems at hand and to suggest in future that they may wish to provide some alternatives to people who would not feel comfortable in such an environment - constructive dialogue..
    Shaykh Maulana Saleem Dhorat and other Shuyukh of Leicester talked about this on Friday, in their respective Masajid. Although Moat Community College is not a Muslim school, a lot of Muslims do attend it. The thing about alcohol is although it may not be supplied to the students, it'll still be present.

    With regards to music, ermm wouldn't it be playing from the beginning...? Hmm.

    Wassalam


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    Quote Originally Posted by Live for Islam
    Assalamu Alaikum,
    Wa salam


    Shaykh Maulana Saleem Dhorat and other Shuyukh of Leicester talked about this on Friday, in their respective Masajid. Although Moat Community College is not a Muslim school, a lot of Muslims do attend it. The thing about alcohol is although it may not be supplied to the students, it'll still be present.

    With regards to music, ermm wouldn't it be playing from the beginning...? Hmm.
    Hmm.. Why would it be present if it were not supplied to the students? Wouldn't the students be the only ones there? As for the music, I think it really depends on what sort of affair it is exactly - my leaving prom type thing consisted of a formal fancy dinner at a posh hotel, so there was no music during this as we chatted away.

    Still, my main point is the manner with which an issue like this is handled, especially with regards to future events and organised activities. If kids are forbidden from going, they must know exactly what the reasoning behind them not being able to say goodbye to their friends is (especially as I imagine this will be one of the last chances before the summer starts (GCSEs have just finished, right?)). The school should also be made aware of the needs of the number of muslim students there so they can accomodate them and hopefully provide more inclusive events in future to help maintain a cohesive student community.

    Forbidding one's children from attending an event and then campaigning for the event itself to be cancelled despite the fact your children will not participate due to your religious/sociological convictions will have a negative effect upon relations and perceptions of the muslim community as far as I can see.

    Perhaps the Shuyukhs could have a chat with the school directly and establish lines of communication to avoid such incidents from occuring in future as well as to deal with any other issues that may affect the muslim populace if they have not done so already?

    Otherwise it just becomes us vs them - "western" values vs "our" values etc, which has a knock on effect down the line.. The muslim students are a part of the school community and thus should also be able to contribute positively to it and promote understanding thus.

    Ramble over,

    ws

    Mossy


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