Where Islam commands women to cover their hairs? Javed Ahmad Ghamidi says no where!

[Abu_Tamim]

I was just trying to understand the ruling of Niqab which is Wajib in the Hanafi madhab (most probably in other 3 too). I am aware of the fact that rulings cannot be derived from just single Hadith, but if a women chooses not to wear niqab and does proper Hijab, will she be sinful for not covering the face? Afterall, hadith of Nabi (saw) in our discussion explicitly states not to cover face (and hands).

One more thing, according to the Hanafi maslak, the face can only be uncovered in the absence of fitnah.

[At Tayyib]

I was just trying to understand the ruling of Niqab which is Wajib in the Hanafi madhab (most probably in other 3 too). I am aware of the fact that rulings cannot be derived from just single Hadith, but if a women chooses not to wear niqab and does proper Hijab, will she be sinful for not covering the face? Afterall, hadith of Nabi (saw) in our discussion explicitly states not to cover face (and hands).

One more thing, according to the Hanafi maslak, the face can only be uncovered in the absence of fitnah.

وَلَا تَقۡرَبُواْ ٱلزِّنَىٰٓ*ۖ إِنَّهُ ۥ كَانَ فَـٰحِشَةً۬ وَسَآءَ سَبِيلاً۬

Do not even go close to fornication. It is indeed a shameful act, and an evil way to follow. (Surah Al Israa:32; Mufti Taqi Usmani)

وَلَا تَقۡرَبُواْ ٱلۡفَوَٲحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنۡهَا وَمَا بَطَنَ*ۖ

and do not go near shameful acts, whether they are open or secret; [Surah Al Inaam:151; Mufti Taqi Usmani]

The Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah refer to the Quran before referring to the Hadith.

[NeednoName]

According to my friend who just returned from Umrah, Saudi Women even cover both eyes.

I've seen a few Munaqabah who cover both eyes in South Africa itself.

Waaleykum'assalaam!

Covering both the eyes by wearing glares is still understood but covering only one eye sounds a bit... I don't have word to describe.

[NeednoName]

The hadith from Abu Dawud that you are mentioning is weak in both matn and sanad.

Jazak'Allah Khayr! So, that means this particular hadith can't be considered for a Shara'i ruling.

You have them in India itself, akhi.

Never seen, bro. Not even in UP, where women take that Afghanistan style Burqa. But yes, I remember, their Burqa sort of have net covering both the eyes.

[sudoku]

^ Well things we do not experience seem strange to us. However that is how the sayings of the sahaba described the believing women after the ayaah 33 of al Ahzab came down.

I suppose this also shows how far we are from the ideal men and women.

[NeednoName]

^ Well things we do not experience seem strange to us. However that is how the sayings of the sahaba described the believing women after the ayaah 33 of al Ahzab came down.

I suppose this also shows how far we are from the ideal men and women.

Maybe they didn't have glares back then, hence Hafiz Ibn Kathir had to come up with the idea of covering only one eye in his Tafseer. If glares were invented in those days, his (ra) tafseer would have been different, I guess. He would surely have made mention of covering both the eyes with shades. Right? What do you say?

[sudoku]

^ I am not sure. To be honest sunglasses (that's what you mean by glares right) can be quite aluring as well.

The fact is that they concealed themselves and only left open what was necessary for them to be able to navigate themselves when outside.

[amr123]

Home-made fatwas every where....!

Suddenly people start re-interpreting Islam in a different way according to their own nafs. Just because current Muslims are following their own will doesn't mean it is the right way. Follow the opinion of the Madhabs in this matter, ignore the rest. And ppl should stop 'trying' to interpret things in their own way.

[NeednoName]

^ I am not sure. To be honest sunglasses (that's what you mean by glares right) can be quite aluring as well.

The fact is that they concealed themselves and only left open what was necessary for them to be able to navigate themselves when outside.

It can't be more alluring than an actual eye. Some women (and men too) are blessed with beautiful eyes. And as they say, aankhey bhi dil ki zabaan hoti hain (translation: Eyes are sometimes voice of the heart).

So, had there been glares back then, Ibn Kathir (ra) might have overruled his opinion of leaving one eye open as he (ra) would have considered it better to not let them (eyes) speak, even one eye for that matter?

Maybe we should ask contemporary Ulema which one would they deem better - Covering one eye & leaving the other one uncovered or Covering both the eyes using sunglasses?

[NeednoName]

Home-made fatwas every where....!

Suddenly people start re-interpreting Islam in a different way according to their own nafs. Just because current Muslims are following their own will doesn't mean it is the right way. Follow the opinion of the Madhabs in this matter, ignore the rest. And ppl should stop 'trying' to interpret things in their own way.

I hope, you aren't pointing at me in your last line.

Assalaam'aaleykum!