Economy and All That

[Maripat]

please see this

there is no question of islamic banking being 'harmful' to economy. you will notice they are opposing it because it is based on Muslim religious texts. and hence a religious commandment. i always say secularists are the least tolerant people on this planet yet they masquerade as promoters of 'free speech'.

Islamic banking in India: Will it open a Pandora's box?

Published On: June 8, 2012 | Duration: 19 min, 28 sec


The National Minorities Commission has asked the government to allow Islamic banking in India which is interest free, but critics say it goes against India's secular fabric. Will it really open up a Pandora's box?

Rabid Fundamentalist=Communist!
Strange.

It is clear that N. Ram can not handle the farmer suicide problem - hence the resort to rhetoric just like Swami. What a pathetic decline.

[Maripat]

According to a BBC report:

The euro and stock markets have gained in Asia after a deal to shore up Spain's troubled banks eased
concerns about a European currency break up.

Will this economic activity, in case of a society that has incorporated Shariah in it, be the same or different?

[Maripat]

India’s slowdown

Farewell to Incredible India

Bereft of leaders, an Asian giant is destined for a period of lower growth. The human cost will be immense

This from the Economist.

Japan has been an eternal nightmare for the west.
China has not disappeared and remains a specter for them.
No wonder that our friends are eager to write off India.

[Maripat]

Here is more from the Economist:

(1) Focus: Islamic finance


(2) Marine Le Pen: Of home-grown terror and Islam


(3) Islam in Indonesia: Tolerating intolerance

[Maripat]

There is a show, by now all over the world, whose name usually has the X-Factor in its title.
The aim is to find musical talent.

One possible end of all those starry eyed blighters is here.

For a Muslim it is quite perplexing to talk about music because in Islam it is decidedly haraam while there is so much of it in the environment.
For any Khilafah worth its salt tackling music will be a gigantic task.
You might destroy the CD collection of a shop but how do you handle people addicted to it?
The enormity of the problem makes one feel dizzy.
We do have places like Pakistan where public drinking is under some control but music is a different ball game altogether.

Think and ponder.

[Abu Zakir]

It is debatable if Music is haraam or not. I do not want to get into an argument about it here. However Allah swt has given talents to human beings, some excel at art and music...like you might excel at science or mathematics...how would you feel if you were prevented from doing any of the things you are good at because someone said it is haraam? You would be miserable. I recently heard a talk about a young girl in school who was labelled by her teachers as a 'low intelligence' child, she kept fidgeting in class, her body kept moving. Trying to force her to sit still did not work and she could not concentrate....someone decided to allow her to dance and she excelled at it, she was a natural. She became happy. What would Muslims have done to this girl? Why did Allah swt give this girl this natural ability only to have us put a stop to it. Music can be very harmful agreed, but it can also be something that moves the human soul, it is Beauty.

There is a show, by now all over the world, whose name usually has the X-Factor in its title.
The aim is to find musical talent.

One possible end of all those starry eyed blighters is here.

For a Muslim it is quite perplexing to talk about music because in Islam it is decidedly haraam while there is so much of it in the environment.
For any Khilafah worth its salt tackling music will be a gigantic task.
You might destroy the CD collection of a shop but how do you handle people addicted to it?
The enormity of the problem makes one feel dizzy.
We do have places like Pakistan where public drinking is under some control but music is a different ball game altogether.

Think and ponder.

[amr123]

someone decided to allow her to dance and she excelled at it, she was a natural. She became happy. What would Muslims have done to this girl? Why did Allah swt give this girl this natural ability only to have us put a stop to it. Music can be very harmful agreed, but it can also be something that moves the human soul, it is Beauty.

Your argument is faulty and unislamic.

Dancing might please her own nafs, but Will dancing allow her to get the pleasure of Allah Ta'ala. NO.
If a person is good at doing Zina, should we encourage him?
If a person is good at making alcohol, should we encourage him?


Remember the hadith.

"Ad-dunya sijnul mu'mini wa jannatul kaafiri."

"The world is prison for the believers and paradise for the disbelievers." [Muslim]


Allah Ta'ala didn't create us to 'chase our dreams' thats idiotic modern mentality.

[Maripat]

The Greek conundrum continues to exercise everybody's neural network.
Paul Krugman included.
And there seems to be no solution.

In above short interview we learn many things.
Greece behaved irresponsibly, even before crisis.
They do not have any currency - they can not print Euro.
Leaving Euro Zone seems to be the best option for them.

Then some interesting aspects centering Krugman himself but not relevant for the present topic.

Now if Greece leaves the Euro then can we think of it as a precursor to Euro meltdown?

Islamic world can wish for Euro break up. Reason is not too deep. Any time Europe is free from its internal worries it is free to indulge in Islamophobic adventures.

No they do not name them Islamophobic acts.
They couch them in different cultural language, a language that even some, or many, Muslims just lap up.
They believe it.

Indeed better option for Islam and Muslims as well as Europe will be that Europe accepts that Islam is the legitimate way of life for Muslims and they have a right to practice it as they deem fit.

Is this too much to ask for?

Now let me see if any one is reading this post. If yes then please start a new thread called Islam is Legitimate. No, yo do not have to prove it. It is legitimate. The point is that US/Europe/NATO have to admit the same. They do pay a lip service that they are not at war with Islam but they in reality are. If they accept that Islam is indeed legitimate way of life then we are moving a step ahead in the direction of a peaceful world. I do not think a world dictated by the west is the future of the world any more.

[vagabond]

Your argument is faulty and unislamic.

Dancing might please her own nafs, but Will dancing allow her to get the pleasure of Allah Ta'ala. NO.
If a person is good at doing Zina, should we encourage him?
If a person is good at making alcohol, should we encourage him?

Shucks, you beat me to the zina analogy. Here's a couple more self indulgent activities that do no harm to others for future reference:

1) if a person excels at being a tatoo artist ...
2) if a person excels at acting like a person of the opposite gender in your own room ...
3) if a person excels at walking away alive from crashing head on into a wall repeatedly ...
4) if a person excels at insulting themselves in front of a mirror ...
5) if a person excels at cussing, to the extent they are poetic ...


Abu Zakir, some advice. Instead of justifying why you think something should be permissible based on what you perceive to be wisdom - you will receive a much more interesting response from this forum if you base your position on scholarly opinions and other Islamic texts. Otherwise, be prepared for zinaa and alcohol analogies

[pluto]

It is debatable if Music is haraam or not. I do not want to get into an argument about it here. However Allah swt has given talents to human beings, some excel at art and music...like you might excel at science or mathematics...how would you feel if you were prevented from doing any of the things you are good at because someone said it is haraam? You would be miserable. I recently heard a talk about a young girl in school who was labelled by her teachers as a 'low intelligence' child, she kept fidgeting in class, her body kept moving. Trying to force her to sit still did not work and she could not concentrate....someone decided to allow her to dance and she excelled at it, she was a natural. She became happy. What would Muslims have done to this girl? Why did Allah swt give this girl this natural ability only to have us put a stop to it. Music can be very harmful agreed, but it can also be something that moves the human soul, it is Beauty.