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    I wanted to ask if anyone knows what tariqa Seyyed Hosein Nasr belongs to?

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    I don't think he's part of any tariqah but he is a perennialist Shia and not a scholar in any sense of the word. I feel he should be avoided at all costs

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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad12 View Post


    I don't think he's part of any tariqah but he is a perennialist Shia and not a scholar in any sense of the word. I feel he should be avoided at all costs


    JazkAllah kyran Brother

    But don't Hamsuf Yusuf supports him..and a number of people on this forum supports Hamsuf Yusef.
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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    The "tariqa" Nasr belongs to is called the "Maryamiyya" and it was founded by the arch-heretic and blasphemer Frithjof Schuon, a.k.a. Isa Nuruddin, who claimed to have been granted khilafat from Shaykh Ahmad al-Alawi. However, all Schuon received was a written permission from al-Alawi's deputy Ibn Tunis in which he was allowed to spread Islam and accept people into Islam...something which one hardly needs a permission to do and is incumbent upon Muslims anyhow. Yet many of Schoun's followers will insist that this document is an appointment as muqaddam.

    Read more here: http://au.academia.edu/MarkSedgwick/...uenonian_Sufis


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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

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    JazkAllah kyran Brother

    But don't Hamsuf Yusuf supports him..and a number of people on this forum supports Hamsuf Yusef.


    No, I don't think so

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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    Quote Originally Posted by muslimsister101 View Post
    BISMILLAH

    I wanted to ask if anyone knows what tariqa Seyyed Hosein Nasr belongs to?

    JazakAllah kyran


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJbAS...eature=related
    He follows the Maryamiyya branch of the Shadhili tariqa... He is also a Sunni Muslim, who is Maliki I believe... Although he says he is sunni in aqida, he has deviated from the sunni Muslims with regards to other religions... He believes salvation can be attain by all religions, when Sunni Muslims believes salvation is only through Islam...
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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    Quote Originally Posted by UntoldTruth View Post
    He follows the Maryamiyya branch of the Shadhili tariqa... He is also a Sunni Muslim, who is Maliki I believe... Although he says he is sunni in aqida, he has deviated from the sunni Muslims with regards to other religions... He believes salvation can be attain by all religions, when Sunni Muslims believes salvation is only through Islam...
    assalmu alaykum

    how can he be muslim if he believes there is other ways to success in the akirah than the shariah of Muhammad peace be upon him??
    "If all the people are pleased with you but Allah is not, what have you gained?

    "We were people who had no honour and dignity, it is Islam that granted us honour and dignity. If we try to seek it through other than Islam, then Allah will disgrace us."
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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad12 View Post


    No, I don't think so

    Here is a video of Seyyed Nasr supporting Zaytuna College...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEowh1-QhdU

    Another video of him with Zaid Shakir[Hamza Yusef sidekick]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yruL...eature=related


    So why do some have problem with Seyyed Nasr but not Hamsuf Yusuf.
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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    i go to grad school where he teaches. he is a shia. he is perennialist. his tariqah has been mentioned above. he is a big confused jumble of beliefs.


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    Default Re: A Question about Seyyed Hosein Nasr

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah288 View Post
    assalmu alaykum

    how can he be muslim if he believes there is other ways to success in the akirah than the shariah of Muhammad peace be upon him??
    The simple answer is: He can't be. Perennialism is Kufr: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...i-amp-Kashmiri

    Perennialism is one of the major fitna facing the Muslim Ummah in West. 'Ulama in the past have refuted this fitna and there is a need to counter this disease once more. Imam Sayyid Anwar Shah Kashmiri (may Allah have mercy on him) has quoted a fatwa of Imam Shihab al-Din Khaffaji al-Maliki (may Allah have mercy on him) in his magnum opus Ikfar al-Mulhidin from Nasim al-Riyad Sharh Shifa',

    He writes,

    “…One who does not call the people of other religions as kafir due to any reason: He says: Therefore (because of the uncertainty of takfir of those who misinterpret and distort clear-cut and unanimous nusus), we regard a person kafir who does not call the followers of other religion as kafir or hesitates to call them kafir, or doubts in their kufr, or thinks their religion is right, though he claims himself to be Muslim and calls other religions other than Islam as false, then also he is kafir who does not call the people of other religions as kafir; since this person opposes Islam by opposing to call kafir as kafir and this is belying and refuting religion. (In short, not calling any person not following Islam as kafir is tantamount to oppose and refute Islam, and that individual is kafir.)”
    Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller has the following to say about the issue: http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/amat.htm

    ...only Islam is valid or acceptable now that Allah has sent it to all men, for the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) has said,

    "By Him in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, any person of this Community, any Jew, or any Christian who hears of me and dies without believing in what I have been sent with will be an inhabitant of hell" (al-Baghawi: Sharh al-sunna 1.104).

    This hadith was also reported by Muslim in his Sahih by `Abd al-Razzaq in his Musannaf, and others. It is a rigorously authenticated (sahih) evidence that clarifies the word of Allah in surat Al 'Imran

    "Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam will never have it accepted from him, and shall be of those who have truly failed in the next life" (Qur'an 3:85)

    and many other verses and hadiths. That Islam is the only remaining valid or acceptable religion is necessarily known as part of our religion, and to believe anything other than this is unbelief (kufr) that places a person outside of Islam, as Imam Nawawi notes:

    "Someone who does not believe that whoever follows another religion besides Islam is an unbeliever (like Christians), or doubts that such a person is an unbeliever, or considers their sect to be valid, is himself an unbeliever (kafir) even if he manifests Islam and believes in it" (Rawda al-talibin, 10.70).

    This is not only the position of the Shafi'i school of jurisprudence represented by Nawawi, but is also the recorded position of all three other Sunni schools: Hanafi (Ibn 'Abidin: Radd al-muhtar 3.287), Maliki (al-Dardir: al-Sharh al-saghir, 4.435), and Hanbali (al-Bahuti: Kashshaf al-qina', 6.170). Those who know fiqh literature will note that each of these works is the foremost fatwa resource in its school. The scholars of Sacred Law are unanimous about the abrogation of all other religions by Islam because it is the position of Islam itself.


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