Nahw Kitab before Hidayatun Nahw?

**Nooria** · 15-03-2012, 06:15 PM

salamu alaykum.

I'm trying to go through Hidayatun nahw and im having ALOT of difficulty. Is there any Nahw kitab you guys would recommend that is available in english that a person can use to prepare for hidayatun nahw?

im thinking that maybe the book Tasheel an-Nahw (available here ---> http://ilmresources.wordpress.com/ ) might be good since it is based on Ilm un Nahw which is used in many madaaris. What do you guys think? anything else you'd suggest?

please no reminders about how it is best to go through the book with a teacher....i know that but right now it's not possible.

wasalaam.

**Seekeress@0** · 16-03-2012, 02:23 AM

Wa alaikumus salam wa rahmatuLLAHI wa barakatuHU wa maghfiratuhu sister
You could start with doing Arabic Tutor.It is a very good book for beginners. It is available online too, so that shouldnt be a problem.
Do you know Urdu? Because if you do, you may also download and/or listen to urdu audio lectures on Hidayatun Nahw here:
http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/1...ng.html?rnd=61

http://www.4shared.com/dir/30675873/...8/sharing.html
There is one series of lectures titled Nahvi Tarkeeb in one of the above links, wherein the instructor touches upon the basics of Nahw before moving on to its intricacies.

I hope this information is beneficial for you.

Requesting duas,
Wassalam

**mospike** · 16-03-2012, 07:13 AM

Wasalaam Ukhti

What is it that you are having difficulty with exactly?

Is it the rendering of the Arabic into English? or is it the understanding of the rules that are being conveyed?

If it is the former, then i am afraid the only way to overcome it is to work on a method that allows you to decipher the Arabic (this implies that you would have studied basic Arabic grammar beforehand in your mother tongue and are able to easily identify the 22 places of Rafa, Nasb and Jar as well as basic Verb cojugation). The first attempt would be to identify what you believe to be the major portions of the sentence. Next try and translate each word and thereafter (once you have what you think is the translation in your head in your mother tongue) then you should go ahead and place the i'raab on the words as per your understanding. You will start out aiming for 100% only to find that initially you will be getting 50% correct. This is perfect and part of learning. The 100% will come in your class when you read to the teacher or when another student reads and is corrected. Making mistakes is a huge part of learning!

If its the latter, then you can purchase a book written by Moulana Hasan Dockrat see here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Simplified-A.../dp/B005LUPNVA
which helped me. Similarly any other nahwa book rendered in your mother tongue would AID you. AID being the operative word. Do not allow these to be 'fillers' for lack of grasping the laws in Arabic. You must aim to understand and apply the laws as the arabic authored has laid it out.

I hope that you find my post beneficial.

Wasalaam

**split** · 17-03-2012, 09:35 AM

at the moment i'm studying 'tasheel an nahw' & it is good. Moreover, try 'Muallim ul Insha'.
hope it helps.

**Sunni_Student786** · 17-03-2012, 07:05 PM

I guess the sister should give both books ( "Tasheel an-Nahw" and a "Simplified Arabic Grammar") a try.

Furthermore, if the actual reading of Hidaayatan Nahw is giving you a problem, I think that you should do two things:

1) Work through Arbi Ka Mu'allim completely before attempting to read Hidaayatan Nahw by yourself. BTW, if you did work through all of Arbi Ka Mu'allim, you will already cover all the rules (to the best of my knowledge) contained in Hidaayatan Nahw. "Knowing" the rules before reading a book like Hidaayatan Nahw has the advantage of kind of working as a reference point of sorts for you to gauge whether or not you are correctly "deciphering" the text, i.e. if you decipher the text in such a way that it gives a meaning that contradicts what you already know about Nahw, you'll know that you are wrong and it can be helpful in helping you determine where you must have gone wrong.

2) Find the best computer composed version of Hidaayatan Nahw possible. I find that reading the computer composed versions of many classic texts are far easier than the old, handwritten ones. At least half the time I'm trying to figure out what letters are written and where the vowels are placed before I even get to the point where I can try to decipher the text in terms of I'raab or meaning.

I hope that this helps.

**Sunni_Student786** · 17-03-2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by mospike

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If its the latter, then you can purchase a book written by Moulana Hasan Dockrat see here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Simplified-A.../dp/B005LUPNVA
which helped me. ...

Brother, how comprehensive is "A Simplified Arabic Grammar"? It seems like a rather weighty text (301 pages) which I found rather surprising.

Additionally, you said that the text aided you to some extent. For what purposes and in what stages of your study of Nahw would you say that it helped?

**mospike** · 19-03-2012, 10:22 AM

The reason why it seems weighty is because it is printed in A5 format which is half of your normal size A4 page. I used it before studying HN and whilst encountering the HN text.

**Sunni_Student786** · 19-03-2012, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by mospike

The reason why it seems weighty is because it is printed in A5 format which is half of your normal size A4 page. I used it before studying HN and whilst encountering the HN text.

Thanks for the answer to my second question. Would you be willing to touch on the first as well, i.e. how comprehensive you consider it to be?

Regardless, May Allah reward you.

Wa'salaam.

**byellow200** · 19-03-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sunni_Student786

Thanks for the answer to my second question. Would you be willing to touch on the first as well, i.e. how comprehensive you consider it to be?

Regardless, May Allah reward you.

Wa'salaam.

one of my ustaads recommended that book. He told me that it had lot of detail in it and that it would align with the second year of traditional alim class(darsenizami)

**Sunni_Student786** · 19-03-2012, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by mospike

..I used it before studying HN and whilst encountering the HN text.

Originally Posted by byellow200

one of my ustaads recommended that book. He told me that it had lot of detail in it and that it would align with the second year of traditional alim class(darsenizami)

So then would it be far to say that it could BOTH supplement and complement the study of Hidaayatan Nahw?