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    so,

    Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creation [edited thanks], born to a Hindu?

    no one hesitates and thinks when naming their daughters Amina, but at the same time muslims show so much contempt to people beonging to the religion we clasify as "hinduism" in modern times, which is basically the same polytheism as that at the time of the prophet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saqqib_Ali View Post
    so,

    Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    no one hesitates and thinks when naming their daughters Amina, but at the same time muslims show so much contempt to people beonging to the religion we clasify as "hinduism" in modern times, which is basically the same polytheism as that at the time of the prophet.

    Subhanallah
    Please change the title akhi. I know what you're trying to say but the title is inappropriate IMHO. You shouldn't ever put the prophet Muhammad PBUH and hindu in the same title. Switch it to something like "Is naming your daughter Amina promoting shirk" (and calling all polytheism hinduism is not true - a lot of hindus are actually monotheist. The main polytheist that exist today are the pagans.)


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    Default Re: Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saqqib_Ali View Post
    so,

    Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    no one hesitates and thinks when naming their daughters Amina, but at the same time muslims show so much contempt to people beonging to the religion we clasify as "hinduism" in modern times, which is basically the same polytheism as that at the time of the prophet.

    Subhanallah
    huh?

    don't you mean best of Creation not best of 'creators'?

    its mainly the Wahhabis who think the Prophets blessed parents were people of polytheism

    personally I believe the view that they were Hanifs along with all his (saws) other direct ancestors


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    Default Re: Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by kakarot_999 View Post
    Please change the title akhi. I know what you're trying to say but the title is inappropriate IMHO. You shouldn't ever put the prophet Muhammad PBUH and hindu in the same title. Switch it to something like "Is naming your daughter Amina promoting shirk" (and calling all polytheism hinduism is not true - a lot of hindus are actually monotheist. The main polytheist that exist today are the pagans.)
    Question isn't about the name "Amina",in my opinion it IS a muslim name. It's whether the prophet's (pbuh) blessed mother was a Hindu.

    Jazakallah


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    Hindhusim is worshipping idols, islam is worshipping 1 god and obeying his final messenger.
    Amina is the name of the blessed mother who gave birth to the prophet, this name is halal for every muslim non-muslim to use .


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    1. There were no hindu's in Arabia. Even though mushrikeen (polytheists) were probably the majority there, they weren't hindu's as that religion never really left India/Sri Lanka

    2. There were people even before the time of the Prophet who believed in one God (I think they were known as Hanif's or something)

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    Default Re: Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saqqib_Ali View Post
    which is basically the same polytheism as that at the time of the prophet.

    Not even close, akhi. Not by a long shot. The polytheism of the Makkan mushriks was based on Semitic (Arab, Assyrian, Mesopotamian, etc.) idols (Hubal, 'Uzza, Manat, etc.); they had nothing to do with Hinduism. The idols of Hinduism (Indra, Agni, etc.) came from the Vedas and other Vedic texts, which were in themselves deviations of the original shirk of the Aryans (Indo-Iranians/Indo-Europeans), and the more modern Hindu idols (Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma, etc.) are a step even further removed from that.

    Not to mention the mushriks of Makkah still believed in Allah, whereas Hindus never have; and the Aryan and Semitic mushrik religions have completely different outlooks and theologies.


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    Default Re: Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul1234 View Post
    huh?

    don't you mean best of Creation not best of 'creators'?

    its mainly the Wahhabis who think the Prophets blessed parents were people of polytheism

    personally I believe the view that they were Hanifs along with all his (saws) other direct ancestors
    Salam,

    At first i misread your quote and thought is it said "hanafis" i was like what.....

    anyways i've started a new thread in aqeedah section which has a suitable title (no hindu, bindu) whic discusses the issue of the imaan of the Prophet's parents (sallahu alayhi wa salam). might be a good idea to keep an eye on it if a scholar responds to it.

    in a nut shell it is wholly inappropriate to say that the prophet's parents died as unbelievers, therefore to say they were mushrikeen and then link that back to hindus is seriously wrong.

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...970#post742970


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    Default Re: Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul1234 View Post
    huh?

    don't you mean best of Creation not best of 'creators'?

    its mainly the Wahhabis who think the Prophets blessed parents were people of polytheism

    personally I believe the view that they were Hanifs along with all his (saws) other direct ancestors
    That's an interesting statement, Considering that the statement in the text of the Sharh of Al-Fiqh Al-Akbar By Al-Mulla Ali al-Qaari, reads that they did die on Kufr. I wonder if Abu Hanifa was a Wahhabi?


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    Default Re: Was our prophet (pbuh) the best of creators, born to a Hindu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Zakariya Yahya View Post
    That's an interesting statement, Considering that the statement in the text of the Sharh of Al-Fiqh Al-Akbar By Al-Mulla Ali al-Qaari, reads that they did die on Kufr. I wonder if Abu Hanifa was a Wahhabi?
    there are two explanations for that

    a) he was mistaken but later changed his view as is evident from him presenting a different view later on in life (his commentary of Shifaa)

    b) it was a mistake of the copiers, short hand was used at one point in copying and the meaning got messed up i dont want to copy down a paragraph or two from "Fiqh Al'Akbar explained" but suffice it to say that there are things to consider. the first is that fitra can be easily to altered to kufr in the kufic script.....

    this second opinion (b) is the most relied upon one. famous hanafis who held this opinion include Imam Zahid Kawthari. it is thought that Mulla Ali Al'Qari got his hands on one of the versions (which had become widespread) in which the error was present and based his opinion on that, but later changed his opinion to the correct one on realizing the error in that.

    even if we were to accept that "they died on kufr" was the real script promoted by Mulla Ali Qari and Mulla Ali Qari believed this, he later changed his view.


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