Dar ul Ulooms that teach 100% in Arabic?

[PakSwed]

Assalamu aleikum,

I'd like to ask if there is any Dar ul Uloom that has all it's courses (from the beginning to the end) in Arabic.

[IbnIsmail]

Assalamu aleikum,

I'd like to ask if there is any Dar ul Uloom that has all it's courses (from the beginning to the end) in Arabic.

Dar al Mustafa in Tarim, Yemen. Ribat in Tarim, Yemen. Ma'had al Fath in Damascus, Syria. Dar al Hadith in Damascus, Syria. Abu Nour in Damascus, Syria. Mahdarah of Murabit al Hajj in Tuwaramat, Mauritania. Qarawiyin in Fez, Morocco. al Azhar in Cairo, Egypt.

[sabm90]

Ibn-e-abbas Karachi
Madarasat al hasnayan in faisalabad (im not sure about it)
Darul uloom, Binori Town, Faruqia has mahad its arabic medium for about 5 years, latter for 3 years its urdu.

[PakSwed]

Thanks. Is there any one in the UK?

[IbnIsmail]

Thanks. Is there any one in the UK?

For some strange reason, the Darul Uloom in the UK seem to insist on using Urdu as the primary teaching language. I have never got my head around this especially as most of the graduates have such week Arabic that they can not even deliver a Khutbah without learning it by heart or reading from a book. Many of them have terrible grammar in English as well which looks very bad when giving Da'wah and lectures. Surely it would make more sense if they taught the first few years in English then the rest in Arabic.

[MSZN85]

For some strange reason, the Darul Uloom in the UK seem to insist on using Urdu as the primary teaching language. I have never got my head around this especially as most of the graduates have such week Arabic that they can not even deliver a Khutbah without learning it by heart or reading from a book. Many of them have terrible grammar in English as well which looks very bad when giving Da'wah and lectures. Surely it would make more sense if they taught the first few years in English then the rest in Arabic.

I suspect that is the case due to the influence of Dar Ul Ulooms originating from the subcontinent. They will have studied in Urdu and trained in that language. I can see it changing over time and moving towards a stronger Arabic medium in learning and interaction. The future generations will have an affinity towards Arabic rather than Urdu Inshallah. You make a good point about the low standard of English etc, I've seen it at mosques in the UK from graduates and it is a poor display for those who have studied and learned such valuable knowledge in a public forum. When it is conveyed properly does one feel the true sweetness in it. Maybe that is an area these particular institutions can focus upon in the future - the full training and public-speaking and dawah alongside the Islamic curriculum they offer. But its also an issue if the calibre of students are not the types that are best suited to that kind of study and roll through each year without a strong foundation in what they do. I have no certainty with regards to this, just a idea, as it seems widespread amongst various institutions in the UK. There maybe something more common between the lot if they have similar areas in which they succeed and which they lack in.

As for Dar Ul Uloom 100% Arabic, I have heard Yemen or Mauritania. A brother has posted the relevant institutions above.

Allahu A'lam

[Badrud_Duja]

darul uloom bury was only established 40 years ago, the first one in UK, so ithink it will take another 20 years maybe then we will see majority of the madrassah syllabus in strictly only english and arabic. Insha'Allah there will also be increase in muslim schools and colleges but to get the best teachers they will have to get out of paying low wage mentality as they do with ulamas and pay them higher wages like local schools in that area.

[MSZN85]

darul uloom bury was only established 40 years ago, the first one in UK, so ithink it will take another 20 years maybe then we will see majority of the madrassah syllabus in strictly only english and arabic. Insha'Allah there will also be increase in muslim schools and colleges but to get the best teachers they will have to get out of paying low wage mentality as they do with ulamas and pay them higher wages like local schools in that area.

Jazakallah,

Interesting comment re. financial issue. Is it a case of these institutions have the money to attract the right, qualified tutors or they are not interested in going beyond a certain pay level? I know in other parts of UK, especially in the south, cost of Living is very high. So actually paying a salary/wages equal to national average (25,000GBP+) or more is essential if you want them to devote their time and not need to commit to a second job. It is not a matter of getting rich, rather just being able to live and pay for the basics (rent/food/utilities/garments/motor-vehicle etc).

Allahu A'lam

[Badrud_Duja]

Jazakallah,

Interesting comment re. financial issue. Is it a case of these institutions have the money to attract the right, qualified tutors or they are not interested in going beyond a certain pay level? I know in other parts of UK, especially in the south, cost of Living is very high. So actually paying a salary/wages equal to national average (25,000GBP+) or more is essential if you want them to devote their time and not need to commit to a second job. It is not a matter of getting rich, rather just being able to live and pay for the basics (rent/food/utilities/garments/motor-vehicle etc).

Allahu A'lam

the muslim schools (not to be confused with madrassas or maktab) do not get funding from the government if am not mistaken so it must be difficult for them to attract top level teachers with higher paypackage due to financial difficulties.

maktab ustadhs, who teach 2-3 hours in the evening dont get paid much either, sometimes below minimum wage so sometimes its just not worth the hassle. i know some young alim graduates who have left teaching maktab because the pay was too low and 9-5 jobs was better paid and convinient. u cant blame them for that

[PakSwed]

The Alim course at Al Kawthar Academy starts in English and then goes on to Arabic: http://www.akacademy.eu/classes/alim_course

They also do this at Dar ul Uloom Online: http://www.darululoomonline.org/