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    Quote Originally Posted by uber_mensch View Post
    The only thing about current events that I can think of is the continuous subversion and 'progress' (towards what?) being made by leftist groups in the west. The process is slow and ongoing. Maybe we will see something happen in our lifetimes, maybe not. As for the muslim world, it's not as bad. Though muslim societies are being heavily subverted by western media and cultural forces.

    I think the arab spring is a part of it, the west has been spreading its pro-democracy & freedom ideology in the middle east for decades now, and the population is brainwashed on a vast scale. The same process that occurred in the west has been underway in the east for a long time now; people prefer their nafs over Allah, causing disunity and chaos. They are tricked by the allure of a tall fair haired white man in an expensive suit, with an iphone and a shiny car, so they conclude that if they adopt the forms of western government they will have the toys and riches of the westerner. Too bad for them that this won't happen.

    I think many of these brainwashed modernist muslims will follow the antichrist.
    i feel depressed sometimes when i think of the inevitable, i sometimes wish for allah to take my life so i can leave this dunya, unfortunately i know i havent prepared well enough for the akhira


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    Quote Originally Posted by abdul baset View Post
    i feel depressed sometimes when i think of the inevitable, i sometimes wish for allah to take my life so i can leave this dunya, unfortunately i know i havent prepared well enough for the akhira
    Assalamu alaykum,

    We don't need to worry, since the prophet predicted all this. He said things will continually get worse. If anything we should be grateful to allah that he decided to test us by placing us in these end times.

    Remember the hadith where the prophet said the muslims for the later times will get immensely more reward than those of his time.


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    أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم
    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم



    A`ūdhu billāhi min ash-shaitāni r-rajīm
    b-ismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm

    I seek refuge in Allah from Shaitan, the accursed one
    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful


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    Quote Originally Posted by uber_mensch View Post
    The only thing about current events that I can think of is the continuous subversion and 'progress' (towards what?) being made by leftist groups in the west. The process is slow and ongoing. Maybe we will see something happen in our lifetimes, maybe not. As for the muslim world, it's not as bad. Though muslim societies are being heavily subverted by western media and cultural forces.

    I think the arab spring is a part of it, the west has been spreading its pro-democracy & freedom ideology in the middle east for decades now, and the population is brainwashed on a vast scale. The same process that occurred in the west has been underway in the east for a long time now; people prefer their nafs over Allah, causing disunity and chaos. They are tricked by the allure of a tall fair haired white man in an expensive suit, with an iphone and a shiny car, so they conclude that if they adopt the forms of western government they will have the toys and riches of the westerner. Too bad for them that this won't happen.

    I think many of these brainwashed modernist muslims will follow the antichrist.
    Have you heard of Imran Hosein?
    I think everybody should watch this great lecture by him: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06620806849744


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    Quote Originally Posted by uber_mensch View Post
    Assalamu alaykum,

    We don't need to worry, since the prophet predicted all this. He said things will continually get worse. If anything we should be grateful to allah that he decided to test us by placing us in these end times.

    Remember the hadith where the prophet said the muslims for the later times will get immensely more reward than those of his time.
    for sharing the message of hope from prophet Muhammad salallahualaiyhiwasallam


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    I think Atheism has nothing to do with the Dajjal --- idol worship and shurk are (MUCH) bigger sins than Atheism or being Agnostic, which can be remedied differently and properly with each individual and his/her reasons behind doubting the existence of a creator.

    The Dajjal would be having people that believe without thinking (unthinking sheep followers) and therefore are easily led astray to the false belief that worshiping him is what God wants them to do.


    Shirk is a form/type of Kufr. The one who rejects the existence of the Creator is worse in disbelief (Kufr) than a person who believes in a creator, but worships others besides him.

    Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) said:

    مَن أنكر المعاد مع قوله بحدوث هذا العالم فقد كفَّرَه الله ، فمن أنكره مع قوله بقدم العالم فهو أعظم كفرا عند الله تعالى

    The one who denies the Hereafter but believes that this universe is created is described by Allah as a kaafir. The one who denies it and says that this universe existed from eternity is a worse kaafir in the sight of Allah, may He be exalted.


    Source: Majmu' al-Fatawa 17/291 (I took the translation from a fatwa of islamqa.)

    (I'm sure other 'Ulama` said the same regarding atheism being a bigger sin.)


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    Shirk is a form/type of Kufr. The one who rejects the existence of the Creator is worse in disbelief (Kufr) than a person who believes in a creator, but worships others besides him.

    Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) said:

    مَن أنكر المعاد مع قوله بحدوث هذا العالم فقد كفَّرَه الله ، فمن أنكره مع قوله بقدم العالم فهو أعظم كفرا عند الله تعالى

    The one who denies the Hereafter but believes that this universe is created is described by Allah as a kaafir. The one who denies it and says that this universe existed from eternity is a worse kaafir in the sight of Allah, may He be exalted.


    Source: Majmu' al-Fatawa 17/291 (I took the translation from a fatwa of islamqa.)

    (I'm sure other 'Ulama` said the same regarding atheism being a bigger sin.)
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    Ibn Taymiyah? Islamqa? really? you should stay away from wahabis and be a true hanbali brother. watch out for those who associate anthropomorphism with imam ahmad
    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/masudq5.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by abdul baset View Post
    Ibn Taymiyah? Islamqa? really? you should stay away from wahabis and be a true hanbali brother. watch out for those who associate anthropomorphism with imam ahmad
    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/masudq5.htm
    anthropomorphism? You're a liar for sure.


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