Atheism and Dajjal

[uber_mensch]

there is no power or might other than Allah,

who is lying?

are you accusing your Muslim brothers of lying?

That Sheikh may be a Salafi but I love him.

If you want a traditionalist exposition that explains how false intellectual idols like Atheism are linked to the Dajjal then read Dajjal system by Ahmad Thomson published by Ta Ha publishers.

also when you say scholars demonize that with which they do not agree you are showing your ignorance of real scholars.

An atheist is some one who denies the existence of gods.
A polytheist is some one who believes in a multiplicity of gods.

Based on these definitions it is impossible to be both at the same time: you cannot believe there are no gods and many gods at once.

Hence you are wrong.

[mh16388]

An atheist is some one who denies the existence of gods.
A polytheist is some one who believes in a multiplicity of gods.

Based on these definitions it is impossible to be both at the same time: you cannot believe there are no gods and many gods at once.

Hence you are wrong.

ever heard of figurative speech?

[Abdul1234]

An atheist is some one who denies the existence of gods.
A polytheist is some one who believes in a multiplicity of gods.

Based on these definitions it is impossible to be both at the same time: you cannot believe there are no gods and many gods at once.

Hence you are wrong.

Allah does not judge by the Oxford English Dictionary

we are not talking about English semantics

we are talking about how we expect Allah to view them

based upon the teachings of scholars


I think what has confused you is that Shirk/Mushrik/Mushrikeen

(which are what we are really mean when we say Polytheism/Polytheist/Polytheists)

do not have exactly the same meaning in Arabic as Polytheism/Polytheist/Polytheists are in English,


the Arabic words Shirk/Mushrik/Mushrikeen have much broader meanings.


Allah's opinion of what is idolatry/polytheism is what matters, those best to know what it is are the Ulema.

[mjali786]

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[uber_mensch]

Allah does not judge by the Oxford English Dictionary
we are not talking about English semantics
we are talking about how we expect Allah to view them
based upon the teachings of scholars
I think what has confused you is that Shirk/Mushrik/Mushrikeen
(which are what we are really mean when we say Polytheism/Polytheist/Polytheists)
do not have exactly the same meaning in Arabic as Polytheism/Polytheist/Polytheists are in English,
the Arabic words Shirk/Mushrik/Mushrikeen have much broader meanings.
Allah's opinion of what is idolatry/polytheism is what matters, those best to know what it is are the Ulema.

A mushrik (مشرك) is some one who associates a partner (شريك) or partners with allah.
An atheist is some one who denies allah's existence.

You can't associate partners with some thing you don't believe exists.

The reasoning still stands.

[dawaheed]

A mushrik (مشرك) is some one who associates a partner (شريك) or partners with allah.
An atheist is some one who denies allah's existence.

You can't associate partners with some thing you don't believe exists.

The reasoning still stands.

Thank you!
Reasoning is lost too often and way too easily for my comfort.

[dawaheed]

there is no power or might other than Allah,

who is lying?
are you accusing your Muslim brothers of lying?

Yes.

[Abdul1234]

A mushrik (مشرك) is some one who associates a partner (شريك) or partners with allah.
An atheist is some one who denies allah's existence.

You can't associate partners with some thing you don't believe exists.

The reasoning still stands.

no it doesn't there are various types of shirk

- the atheist is a mushrik due to the fact that they practice shirk in Ruboobeeyah/Lordship

by his denying that there is a Rabb/Lord over the creation.

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Dawaheed those you have called liars will settle with you over it on Yaum al Qiyamah unless they forgive you.

[amr123]

bro stop posting in pointless threads like these. please.

[uber_mensch]

no it doesn't there are various types of shirk

- the atheist is a mushrik due to the fact that they practice shirk in Ruboobeeyah/Lordship

by his denying that there is a Rabb/Lord over the creation.

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Dawaheed those you have called liars will settle with you over it on Yaum al Qiyamah unless they forgive you.

Nope. You fail at logic.

The atheist isn't a mushrik since he doesn't believe there is a Rabb in the first place to associate partners with.