how to do ghusl quickly for namaz

**ntuser** · 21-04-2012, 03:43 PM

aslamalikum wa rahmatullah hei wa baraktu

firstly all thanks and gratitudes to the members who run this website and may allah accept your worship and your guidance to troubled muslims.

i am a married male and i am trying my best to perform the duties of islam ie namaz fasting etc. however i have 1 big problem which has gotten worse since the day i reached puberty. i want to know what is the best way to perform ghusl quickly so i dont get late for work or for general life. as a normal male i get wet dreams and i have sexual relations with my wife. i know that when sperm is released either through nocturnal emission (wet dream) or sexual intercourse with my wife i have to take a bath (ghusl janaba).

this is the problem for me. i will spend a great time in the bathroom to clean myself to ensure proper ghsul is done. sometimes i may repeat my ghusl to be sure it is done properly. this is my understanding of ghusl but please correct me if i am wrong.

firstly after discharge of semen, i urinate as required by islamic law to get the remainingg semen out.
i then use toilet paper to completely dry myself AND THIS IS MY BIG PROBLEM. THIS IS WHERE IT CAN TAKE HOURS (I HAVE BEEN IN FOR 4 HOURS AT A TIME) TO PROPERLY CLEAN THE URINE. AS SOON AS I MOVE THE URINE COMES BACK BUT IT IS LESS THAN A DROP HOWEVER IT IS STILL THERE AS IT LEAVES A MARK ON THE TOPILET PAPER. I KEEP DOING THIS AND WASTE A LOT OF TIME AS WELL AS LOTS OF TOILET PAPER. I TRIED ALL THE METHODS OF ISTIBRA BUT THE URINE IS STILL THERE AND IS LESS THAN A DROP BUT STILL MAKES THE TISSUE PAPER WET. I AM GOING OUT OF MY MIND HERE AND SOMETIMES HAVE ARGUEMNTS TO THE LENGTH OF TIME I SPEND IN THE BATHROOM AND I REALLY NEED HELP.

PLEASE ISLAMIC SCHOLARS AND LEARNED BROTHERS HELP ME HERE. DO I HAVE TO DO ISTNIJA BEFORE GHUSL? REMEMEMBER I ONLY WANT TO BECOME PURE TO READ NAMAZ ANJD STOP WASTING TIME, THE SUNNAH ACTS CAN COME IN LATER WHEN I GET MORE CONFIDENT I JUST NEED TO DO THE REQUIRD ACTS THAT WILL MAKE ME PURE. CAN I JUST URINATE AND CAN THE URINE STILL BE THERE AS IN DOES IT HAVE TO BE COMPLETETLY 100% DRIED UP. REASON WHY IM SAYING THIS IS BECASUE THE REQUIREMENT OF NORMAL ISTANJA IS THAT THE URINE HAS TO BE 100% COMPLETELY DRIED OR AM I WRONG FOR NAMAZ?

ALSO WHEN I DO WUDHU BEFORE GHUSL WHICH AGAIN I THINK IS NOT A FARZ, IT TAKES TIME AS IF I BREAK WIND, IF I AM BLEEDING OR IF I FEEL URINE DROPS COMING OUT THEN I DRY MYSELF AND GO BACK TO TRYING RID MYSELF OF REMAINING URINE IN MY URETHRA?

PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME HERE. I HAVE MISSED PRAYERS, SPEND WEEKS COMING BACK EVERYDAY FROM WORK TO HAVE A GHUSL AND CANT GET IT RIGHT.

SO MY MAIN POINTS IS THAT DO I HAVE TO 100% DRY MY URETHRA BEFORE COMMENCING FOR WIDHU AND WILL THE REMANING URINE DROPS BREAK MY ISTINJA CAUSING ME TO START AGAIN FOR INSTINJA?

THEN WHEN I AM DOING WUDHU, WILL ACTS SUCH AS BREAKJING WIND, BLEEDING FROM A WOUND, URINE DROPS BREAK MY WUDHU AS I HAVE DONE WUDHU MORE THAN TEN TIMES TO ACHIEVE PERFECTION?

THEN WHEN I HAVE A BATH, DO I HAVE TO POUR WATER FROM RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOULDER THEN THE LEFT HAND SIDE SHOULDER THEN ALL OVER THE HEAD OR CAN I JUST POUR IT IN ANY ORDER?

DO I HAVE TO POUR IT 3 TIMES OR WILL 1 BE ENOUGH?

1 LAST POINT, I WILL OBSERVE HAYA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE HERE. WHERE IN THE POINT OF GHUSL DO YOU GET NAKED AND WHEN DO YOU COVER BACK UP?

MY MAIN POINT IS THAT CAN I JUST URNINATE AFTER SEMEN DISHARGE, COMPELETE THE 3 FARDHS I THINK THEY ARE AND GO TO WORK.

JAZAAAK ALLAH HAIR

**abdul12345** · 21-04-2012, 04:04 PM

Asalaam
Thoroughly do the 3 faraiz is enough:

thrice put water to the soft bone in nose and rinse
gargle in mouth thrice
every hair on the body should be wet, 1 hair left will nullify ghusl

This will take about 5-10 minutes if you are slow, just be srupulous
Wasalaam

**ntuser** · 21-04-2012, 05:07 PM

what about the leaking urine? do you leave that out?

**faisal-uk** · 21-04-2012, 06:44 PM

could someone describe in detail how to perform full ghusl but with using soap.

**abdulwahhab** · 21-04-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by ntuser

what about the leaking urine? do you leave that out?

Do you continue to leak urine even after ghusl? Have you considered the possibility of seeing a doctor?

**ntuser** · 21-04-2012, 06:58 PM

no its not a problem like that. its not a lot of drops like leaking. bascially everytime i put a tissue over my organ it gets wet. im going crazy with this. the point i wanted to ask is that do you have to do istinja and istibra before doing ghusl? for namaz what i do is i change to clothes that have been used, go about my daily routine. when it comes to namaz time i change into clean clothes. by that time the urine has dried up. afterwars i change back to my normal clothes.

the problem is only if i have a nocturbal emission & i need to go to work, i dont have time to sit around and get my self dry through istibra. thats why i was asking is istinja really required before a ghusl?? i will ask you about istinja for namaz after i over come this issue. brother im 29 and i used to be really good at reading quran and namaz. now becasue of this problem i rarely read the quran as im always confused if im ghusl iscorrect. thats why i need an answer. could you please sonehow give me step by step answers for ghusl janabah but filling only the farz options for now? lets just say i have discharched then urinated. what do i do afterwards? do i pay intention to my urine drops. they really not drops its just that the tissue gets wet but impossible for it to be 100% dry when i press it agasint my organ.

jazak allah

**ntuser** · 21-04-2012, 07:00 PM

i forgot to say, after ghsul as i go about my daily routine i dont leak urine drops. i think its the wiswases that have got to me and i have lost the knowledge of taking a bath correctly. after all everybody tells me it takes 5 mins to do and Allah tallah in his glory has said he has islam easy for us. please help me here so i can regain back to my normal life.

**Yusuf97** · 23-04-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by ntuser

aslamalikum wa rahmatullah hei wa baraktu

firstly all thanks and gratitudes to the members who run this website and may allah accept your worship and your guidance to troubled muslims.

i am a married male and i am trying my best to perform the duties of islam ie namaz fasting etc. however i have 1 big problem which has gotten worse since the day i reached puberty. i want to know what is the best way to perform ghusl quickly so i dont get late for work or for general life. as a normal male i get wet dreams and i have sexual relations with my wife. i know that when sperm is released either through nocturnal emission (wet dream) or sexual intercourse with my wife i have to take a bath (ghusl janaba).

this is the problem for me. i will spend a great time in the bathroom to clean myself to ensure proper ghsul is done. sometimes i may repeat my ghusl to be sure it is done properly. this is my understanding of ghusl but please correct me if i am wrong.

firstly after discharge of semen, i urinate as required by islamic law to get the remainingg semen out.
i then use toilet paper to completely dry myself AND THIS IS MY BIG PROBLEM. THIS IS WHERE IT CAN TAKE HOURS (I HAVE BEEN IN FOR 4 HOURS AT A TIME) TO PROPERLY CLEAN THE URINE. AS SOON AS I MOVE THE URINE COMES BACK BUT IT IS LESS THAN A DROP HOWEVER IT IS STILL THERE AS IT LEAVES A MARK ON THE TOPILET PAPER. I KEEP DOING THIS AND WASTE A LOT OF TIME AS WELL AS LOTS OF TOILET PAPER. I TRIED ALL THE METHODS OF ISTIBRA BUT THE URINE IS STILL THERE AND IS LESS THAN A DROP BUT STILL MAKES THE TISSUE PAPER WET. I AM GOING OUT OF MY MIND HERE AND SOMETIMES HAVE ARGUEMNTS TO THE LENGTH OF TIME I SPEND IN THE BATHROOM AND I REALLY NEED HELP.

PLEASE ISLAMIC SCHOLARS AND LEARNED BROTHERS HELP ME HERE. DO I HAVE TO DO ISTNIJA BEFORE GHUSL? REMEMEMBER I ONLY WANT TO BECOME PURE TO READ NAMAZ ANJD STOP WASTING TIME, THE SUNNAH ACTS CAN COME IN LATER WHEN I GET MORE CONFIDENT I JUST NEED TO DO THE REQUIRD ACTS THAT WILL MAKE ME PURE. CAN I JUST URINATE AND CAN THE URINE STILL BE THERE AS IN DOES IT HAVE TO BE COMPLETETLY 100% DRIED UP. REASON WHY IM SAYING THIS IS BECASUE THE REQUIREMENT OF NORMAL ISTANJA IS THAT THE URINE HAS TO BE 100% COMPLETELY DRIED OR AM I WRONG FOR NAMAZ?

ALSO WHEN I DO WUDHU BEFORE GHUSL WHICH AGAIN I THINK IS NOT A FARZ, IT TAKES TIME AS IF I BREAK WIND, IF I AM BLEEDING OR IF I FEEL URINE DROPS COMING OUT THEN I DRY MYSELF AND GO BACK TO TRYING RID MYSELF OF REMAINING URINE IN MY URETHRA?

PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME HERE. I HAVE MISSED PRAYERS, SPEND WEEKS COMING BACK EVERYDAY FROM WORK TO HAVE A GHUSL AND CANT GET IT RIGHT.

SO MY MAIN POINTS IS THAT DO I HAVE TO 100% DRY MY URETHRA BEFORE COMMENCING FOR WIDHU AND WILL THE REMANING URINE DROPS BREAK MY ISTINJA CAUSING ME TO START AGAIN FOR INSTINJA?

THEN WHEN I AM DOING WUDHU, WILL ACTS SUCH AS BREAKJING WIND, BLEEDING FROM A WOUND, URINE DROPS BREAK MY WUDHU AS I HAVE DONE WUDHU MORE THAN TEN TIMES TO ACHIEVE PERFECTION?

THEN WHEN I HAVE A BATH, DO I HAVE TO POUR WATER FROM RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOULDER THEN THE LEFT HAND SIDE SHOULDER THEN ALL OVER THE HEAD OR CAN I JUST POUR IT IN ANY ORDER?

DO I HAVE TO POUR IT 3 TIMES OR WILL 1 BE ENOUGH?

1 LAST POINT, I WILL OBSERVE HAYA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE HERE. WHERE IN THE POINT OF GHUSL DO YOU GET NAKED AND WHEN DO YOU COVER BACK UP?

MY MAIN POINT IS THAT CAN I JUST URNINATE AFTER SEMEN DISHARGE, COMPELETE THE 3 FARDHS I THINK THEY ARE AND GO TO WORK.

JAZAAAK ALLAH HAIR

Sorry i did sound a bit selfish by not commenting on this thread and asking you to view mine. I didn't read this thread, I just read the thread title and it was about ghusl and alhamdulilah, mashAllah i have never had to perform it so that's why I did not orginally comment on this thread. However after having a read your thread and study some basic HANAFI fiqh at maddrasah I think I can give you a few tips that will help inshAllah.

Firstly make dua for yourself, also make dua for everyone on this forum please inshAllah I will do so as well.

Regarding gargling water 7 times, I have never heard of this as far as i know only once is fard and three is sunnah, I have a book that explains the fards and sunnah of ghusal in quite a bit of detail (see next post)

**Yusuf97** · 23-04-2012, 10:40 PM

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InshAllah you shall be able to view the images attached to this post, this book is for hanfi fiqh (i'm no sure if ghusl is different in other madhabs) just to let you know what the book is called and where its from and i have also took a few pictures of the first page and the front cover.

Please see next post for help regarding istibra techniques

**Yusuf97** · 23-04-2012, 10:54 PM

Regarding istibra, I have also previouslysuffered from dribbles coming out after but I think the best way to do stop that is by:
1) trying not to hold it in for too long
2) when you have finished simply apply pressure using your left index or middle finger, start putting firm pressure on your anas and then work your way up to the ball sack and on the penis. the objective of this is to push/force on droplets of urine to comeout whilst your sitting at the toliet that would or the wise probably comeout afterwards.
3)whilst siting in the toliet ist try and sit in 45 degree angel, sit straight then lean slightly to the right and then the left. Make your two legs to touch each other for a few secounds that let them go
4) whilst being in the toliet put some tissue arround the organ and take a few steps, bend down a few times and make your hand/ hands almost touch the floor as if you were about to pick something up. Sit down and stand up a few times on the toliet.
5)I read a fatwa from darul ifta http://www.daruliftaa.com/ that you should take the neccessary precuations and then ignore any daoubts you have unless your certain that urine drops have come out.