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    Islam provides practical solutions to life's issues. Whether you like it or not war involves the wholesale ravaging of the womenfolk by the conquerors. This happened in the past and will continue to happen. One just needs to look at conflicts including the recent past and the treatment of women caught in the crossfire of war.

    The lady who is taken as captive in Islam does not have the right to refusal however, her master is unable to assault her to fulfil his desires. If he does so he has acted with zulm which is a grave sin punishable by Allah
    Also there is a whole category of Islamic jurisprudence deatiling on how this lady is treated and if she becomes pregnant with the master's child then she will become his umm walad on his death. As far as I know even the child born from this union has a share in the inheritance of his father.

    Please also bear in mind that a whole nation's women will not be treated as slaves but only those that have been captured on the battlefield or if a city has been stormed by force.

    Allah Ta'ala provided the Muslims with a perfect Rasul who was the embodiment of true moral character. Please read how he treated the women 'slaves' that were his by right. Some of them became the most respected women on the planet known divinely as 'ummul mu'mineen - Mother of the Believers.'

    You are looking at this through the poisoned prism of western 'ideals' and supposed 'morality' which if objectively viewed is nothing but ignorance.

    You also forget that of paramount importance in Islam is the accountability that he/she will face when he/she meets his Creator on the Day of Judgement.

    Wa maa alayna illal balaaghul mubeen - And upon us is to only convey the plain message - Surah Yaseen, Al Qur'aan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by garet122 View Post
    But why is there female captives?? Women aren't soldiers!

    & is it allowed in islam to have sex with a female prisonner of war without her permission (rape)??
    this is the link that I mentioned in my first reply.

    http://www.answering-christianity.co...possession.htm

    Quoting from the article regarding the "right-hand possession" verse;

    The Noble Quran, 4:23-24 "Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-

    Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath God ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and God is All-knowing, All-wise."

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    The lady who is taken as captive in Islam does not have the right to refusal however, her master is unable to assault her to fulfil his desires. If he does so he has acted with zulm which is a grave sin punishable by Allah


    You contradicted yourself. First you say that she does not have the right to refusal and after you say that her master is unable to assault her to fulfil her desire.

    Of course the captive will not accept having sex with the same guy that killed her family. Think logically, your husband has been killed, why would you want to have sex with the soldier that killed him?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by abd7861 View Post


    You are looking at this through the poisoned prism of western 'ideals' and supposed 'morality' which if objectively viewed is nothing but ignorance.
    I am not looking at this through the poisoned prism of western ideal. I do no like western 'morality' as you say.


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    First, muslims are saying that we cannot harm innocent people in jihad. That is really good, I agree with it.

    But why did the prophet muhammed took children and women as a booty. If he had taken the enemy soldiers as slaves, it will be 100% ok. But why innocent children and women????


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    The brothers have already said only people taken captive were those that were in the battlefield, be it man woman or child.

    If they were on the battlefield they were soldiers, simply put


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    "All humans are dead except those who have knowledge. And all those who have knowledge are asleep, except those who do good deeds. And those who do good deeds are deceived, except those who are sincere. And those who are sincere are always in a state of worry." [Imam ash-Shafi`i]


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    Default Re: Slave-girl rapping in islam

    Why would slaves rap?

    We got to do it, do it.....

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    Default Re: Slave-girl rapping in islam

    Quote Originally Posted by garet122 View Post
    First, muslims are saying that we cannot harm innocent people in jihad. That is really good, I agree with it.

    But why did the prophet muhammed took children and women as a booty. If he had taken the enemy soldiers as slaves, it will be 100% ok. But why innocent children and women????
    Women and children that were not present on the battlefield were not affected. Even following the siege of cities, only those involved with the army were captured and taken prisoner. Those that weren't were allowed to live their lives normally, including following their own religious laws, but had to pay jizya.

    Those on the battlefield were taken as slaves. Slavery in Islam is better than servitude, even by modern day standards. The rights of the slaves are many in Islam, including eating the same type of food and wearing the same type of clothes that the master wears. The slave is provided for and his entire livelihood is taken care of by the mater. Even with all these rights, freeing a slave is seen as one of the greatest actions in Islam, either by setting your own slave free or freeing slaves owned by others by paying the masters. There are even penalties for certain actions (e.g. breaking a fast in Ramadhan) which can be paid by freeing slaves.
    ياايها الذين امنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shkapar_Dorwaza View Post
    :wasalam:

    for sharing bro. Very informative


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