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    I have never heard that people get killed for such things. I know they do get fined though. I think whoever claims such must prove that it was TTP who did those things, it definitely is not their official policy whatsoever. We know that sometimes even the Afghan Taliban may make mistakes but the people are encouraged to complain to the judges/ameers etc so that issues can be resolved.

    With regards to the killing of civilians, they claim in each of the video's I have seen, that they do not target civilians at all. However, due to the nature of combat, civilians may be killed. If you look at the classical works of fiqh, this is dealt with and in the video's, texts and references are given. Something relevant to this can be found in Shaykh Azzam's (ra) book here: http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/defence.pdf

    See under 'Evidence for the General March', part 6 where the issue of Muslim shields is brought up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad12 View Post


    I have never heard that people get killed for such things. I know they do get fined though. I think whoever claims such must prove that it was TTP who did those things, it definitely is not their official policy whatsoever. We know that sometimes even the Afghan Taliban may make mistakes but the people are encouraged to complain to the judges/ameers etc so that issues can be resolved.


    You're right. But my source of such informations was a reliable person who wrote of these incidents here on SF.
    What I mean is, we can't really rule out a priori the presence of proper "extremists"/khawarij as there are in other places as well (see Algeria, even though much of what has been blamed on Mujahidin were covert operations by the Algerian mukhabarat, but still not all of them).

    He may eventually add some more details here, if he deems it to be the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad12
    With regards to the killing of civilians, they claim in each of the video's I have seen, that they do not target civilians at all.
    In a related thread this pro-mujahidin brother mentioned that in another video they allegedly say that they don't mind targetting civilians on purpose. Allah knows best.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad12
    However, due to the nature of combat, civilians may be killed. If you look at the classical works of fiqh, this is dealt with and in the video's, texts and references are given. Something relevant to this can be found in Shaykh Azzam's (ra) book here: http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/defence.pdf
    Indeed, but that's not this what I'm talking about..



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    I have never come across such an Eid message, so please share the link

    type 'mullah omer's eid message' site:sunniforum.com in google
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    brother umar_italy is closing in on the jackpot...targeted civilian killings. and guess what osama bin laden's papers showed today: he too disliked ttp for their targeted civilian killings.
    hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post
    brother umar_italy is closing in on the jackpot...targeted civilian killings. and guess what osama bin laden's papers showed today: he too disliked ttp for their targeted civilian killings.
    hmmm


    Yet in every video that I have ever seen, they have denied the targeted killing of civilians. So maybe it isn't the TTP who are doing this, but rather, someone else. With regards to Shaykh Bin Laden's papers, they were released by the kuffar, not Al Qaeda, so they can't be trusted. Not only that, but why would he write about the TTP when all he had to do was speak to them face to face about what he thought was wrong? It makes no sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post
    type 'mullah omer's eid message' site:sunniforum.com in google


    After having done so, I can find no Eid message with any mention of the TTP, such as the one you spoke of. Please give me a link to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post
    brother umar_italy is closing in on the jackpot...targeted civilian killings. and guess what osama bin laden's papers showed today: he too disliked ttp for their targeted civilian killings.
    hmmm


    Bhai, please read the article posted on the following thread:

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ode&highlight=

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    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post
    type 'mullah omer's eid message' site:sunniforum.com in google
    Yes, we found the Eid message, but what about his message discussing TTP?


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    give me some time brothers. i realize i have to explain several points.from my huge bookmarks list i have to find articles. i think it was brother abul lais who once posted a thread in which mullah umar discusses ttp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mh16388 View Post
    give me some time brothers. i realize i have to explain several points.from my huge bookmarks list i have to find articles. i think it was brother abul lais who once posted a thread in which mullah umar discusses ttp.


    I found this post, allegedly mentioning something on the TTP issue, but still couldn't find any reference to them in it?

    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post438635

    Interesting thread, the whole of it..


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