Sharia in Mali

[ahmad12]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...qwT_print.html

[Bro Hasan]

Nice

[Zahed]

Let's see how long this situation lasts. Because this has happened without any major struggle.

[warea]

Let's see how long this situation lasts. Because this has happened without any major struggle.

How long can a gang of foreigners apply shariah? Not much long. The poverty and powerless state of Mali people is the only reason why these men armed with foreign guns are having nice time here. My fear is the reactionery apostasy that might result due to the harsh bedoin ways of these foreign gangs.

[ahmad12]

How long can a gang of foreigners apply shariah? Not much long. The poverty and powerless state of Mali people is the only reason why these men armed with foreign guns are having nice time here. My fear is the reactionery apostasy that might result due to the harsh bedoin ways of these foreign gangs.

Please don't pass judgement without understanding the full nature of the situation. There are many foreign mujahideen there but most of them are in fact local mujahideen. If they are attacked, they will continue their jihad and I don't see how they are being harsh in any way; all they are doing is implementing the Sharia and if the locals find it harsh, then so be it. The Sharia cannot be changed for them

[umar_italy]

How long can a gang of foreigners apply shariah? Not much long. The poverty and powerless state of Mali people is the only reason why these men armed with foreign guns are having nice time here. My fear is the reactionery apostasy that might result due to the harsh bedoin ways of these foreign gangs.

Are you talking on the basis of Nationalism or Shari'ah?
Are you going to accept Shari'ah only if done by people with the same skin colour race and language as yours?

[warea]

Are you talking on the basis of Nationalism or Shari'ah?
Are you going to accept Shari'ah only if done by people with the same skin colour race and language as yours?

These gangs are neither Islamic scholars nor leaders of the community. They have no authority to go around with their self styled namesake "shariah" implemented by dubious means that come down to nothing but la madhabi ramblings of the modern day khawarij. The khawarij of the past used to in a similar way go to weak powerless villages and impose their pseudo shariah and pseudo jihadi programmes. They also put takfir on people because of the absence of a general forbiddence of evil by the community.

[umar_italy]

These gangs are neither Islamic scholars nor leaders of the community. They have no authority to go around with their self styled namesake "shariah" implemented by dubious means that come down to nothing but la madhabi ramblings of the modern day khawarij. The khawarij of the past used to in a similar way go to weak powerless villages and impose their pseudo shariah and pseudo jihadi programmes. They also put takfir on people because of the absence of a general forbiddence of evil by the community.

Shari'ah has to be implemented.

When "traditional scholars" don't strive for it, "la madhabi modern day khawarij" will take their place..

And still, Shari'ah implemented by "not perfect" people is better than kufr legislation, isn't it?

By the way, which of the ruling they have been implementing so far make them deserve the expression "self styled namesake "shariah"" and "pseudo shariah"?

[Saqqib_Ali]

So what if the sharia understanding of the locals differs from that of those that hold the guns? Are acceptable differences allowed or are they imposing one groups view of islam on the rest.

[umar_italy]

So what if the sharia understanding of the locals differs from that of those that hold the guns? Are acceptable differences allowed or are they imposing one groups view of islam on the rest.

What kind of differences in "Shari'ah understanding" are you talking about?

One thing is legitimate madhahib differences (which I don't think an imarah/khilafah would have any interest in digging in), another is having two opinions about clear-cut elements of Shari'ah (be it hudud or what else), which is not allowed.