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    Default Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Assalam o 'alaykum,

    There has not been more exaggeration and excessiveness in this Ummah about any other personalities more than Sayyiduna 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) and Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani (may Allah have mercy on him). Rawafid went into extreme regarding Sayyiduna 'Ali and Ahl al-Bid'ah went into extreme regarding Shaykh Jaylani.

    This was something also noticed by Mujaddid Alf al-Thani Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi (may Allah have mercy on him). He writes in his Maktubat:

    "A group of 'Abd al-Qadir's disciples had excessive reactions (ghullu) to him and in their love for him they went beyond acceptable limits. This is like the exaggerated lovers of Sayyiduna 'Ali [i.e. Rawafid]. Allah Almighty bless his face. From the words of this group [of 'Abd al-Qadir's exaggerating disciples], it is clear that they consider 'Abd al-Qadir to be more excellent than any other protégés of Allah, before or after his time. Other than the prophets it seems as if they give the greatest preference to 'Abd al-Qadir. This is from excessive love.

    What if it said that more miracles appeared from 'Abd al-Qadir than anyone else, and therefore he should be given preference? We say that the number of miracles is no proof of preference. It can be said that a person who has performed no miracles is more preferable than one who has manifested miracles.

    The shaykh of shaykh (Abu Hafs al-Suhrawardi in his 'Awarif al-Ma'arif, after mentioning the miracles of shaykhs, says, "All miracles are a gift of Allah almighty which manifest to some people through unveilings. They share these and [appear to be] superior to others [who do not have the same experiences.] They receive nothing [in terms of spiritual growth] from performing these miracles, which are for strengthening a person's certainty. One who is given certainty does not need miracles. Other than remembrance in the heart and in the Essence, there is no need for miracles."

    Performing many miracles to demonstrate one's excellence is like trying to show the preference of Sayyiduna 'Ali over Sayyiduna Abu Bakr mentioning Sayyiduna 'Ali's many excellence and virtues." (Maktubat, 1:293 - Revealed Grace, p. 215-216)

    Mujaddid compares the bid'atis with Rawafid.

    Bida'tis were deceived by many miracles of Shaykh Jaylani. This led them to attribute the qualities of 'ilm al-ghayb, hadir nadir, etc. to him. Then they attributed false quotes to him and started to call him for fulfillment of their needs.

    May Allah save us from this excessiveness.
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    Default Re: Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Assalam o 'alaykum,

    Sayyid al-Ta’ifah Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani (d. 561H / may Allah have mercy on him) said, “Follow [the Qur'an and Sunnah] and do not indulge in innovation (bid’ah). Remain in conformity and do not disagree. Remain obedient and not be disobedient. Be sincere and do not commit shirk. Declare Allah Most High to be One, and do not leave His door. Ask Him and do not ask anyone apart from Him. Seek aid from Him and do not seek aid from anyone apart from Him. Rely on Him and do not rely on anyone apart from Him.” (Al-Fath al-Rabbani, p.313)

    And he further writes, “You must carry out His commandments, observe His prohibition, comply with His decree, and keep your outer and inner calmly speechless in His presence, then you will experience what is good in this world and the hereafter. Do not ask creatures for anything for they are weak and poor, incapable of bringing harm or benefit to themselves or anyone else.” (Al-Fath al-Rabbani, p.325)

    When Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani was in the throes of the illness in which he died, he gave the following advice to his son ‘Abd al-Wahhab, “… Do not rely on anyone but Him, address all your requests to Him (Exalted is He), and put your trust in no one other than Allah (Glory be to Him). Affirm His Oneness. All is contained within the affirmation of His Oneness.” (Futuh al-Ghayb, p.185)

    Some circles have brought forward a statement attributed to Shaykh al-Jaylani from a book titled Bahjat al-Asrar in support of istighathah. However, this particular quote attributed to Shaykh al-Jaylani is contrary to what we find in his books. Shaykh al-Jaylani never endorsed istighathah as is evident from his books from which the abovementioned quotes have been produced. Furthermore, Bahjat al-Asrar has been declared unreliable by senior scholars.

    For example, Imam Shams al-Din al-Dhahabi (d. 748H / may Allah have mercy on him), the great master in the science of analyzing the reliability of narrators (rijal), writes regarding the author of Bahjat al-Asrar, “He had great love for Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani. He compiled events of his life and his virtues in about three volumes and wrote in it all narrations from various people, both worthy and unworthy. Thereby, he spread many false stories about him.” (Ma’rifat al-Qurra’ al-Kibar, p.721)

    Hafiz Shams al-Din Muhammad Jaz’ari al-Shafi’i (d. 833H / may Allah have mercy on him) has also brought forward this quote of Imam al-Dhahabi in his Tabaqat al-Qurra’, 1:261.

    Hafiz Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (d. 795H / may Allah have mercy on him) writes, “It [the book Bahjat al-Asrar] deals with the life-events and merits (manaqib) of Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir Jaylani in three volumes. He has filled it with everything, big and small. It is sufficient for one to be called a liar when he narrates everything he hears. I have seen a portion of this book and my heart does not feel secure in accepting or relying on anything in it, or relating anything from it, except that which is famous and well-known from other books, because of an excess of narrating from unknown individuals, deviations, major errors, [unfounded] claims, and false speech, such that it cannot be considered, nor is it appropriate to attribute such things to Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani.” (Tabaqat al-Hanabilah, 2:194)

    The historian Khayr al-Din Zirikli (d. 1396H) quotes a verdict of Hafiz Ibn Hajr al-’Asqalani (d. 852H / may Allah have mercy on them) regarding this book, “Ibn Hajr said that many strange and odd stories are mentioned in it by him [the author] and many people have objected [criticized] to many chains of narration and stories narrated in it.” (Al-A’lam, 5:34) This quote is mentioned in Al-Durar al-Kaminah fi A’yan al-Mi‘a al-Thaminah, 3:142, of Hafiz Ibn Hajr.

    ‘Allamah Zayn al-Din ibn al-Wardi al-Shafi’i (d. 749H / may Allah have mercy on him) said, “Verily, there are many incorrect things and great exaggerations in this book [Bahjat al-Asrar] concerning the status of ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani that is only appropriate for divinity (rububiyyah).” (Kashf al-Zunun, 1:25)

    Shaykh Sayyid Muhammad Abu ‘l-Huda ibn Wadi al-Sayadi al-Rifa’i[11] (d. 1328H / may Allah have mercy on him) writes regarding Bahjat al-Asrar, “There are many things written in the abovementioned book, Al-Bahjat, attributing which to Shaykh ['Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani] al-Gawth [al-A'zam], may he enjoy the pleasure of Allah, is incorrect. Many stories and untrue things were spread on his behalf. And numerous astonishing sayings were transmitted from a group of elders. Some defiant and bold people – and Allah’s refuge is sought – even fabricated many false traditions and attributed them to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace).” (Tariqah Rifa’iyyah, p.16)

    He further writes, “As for the stories, words, and fabricated traditions written in the book named Bahjat al-Asrar by [Abu 'l-Hasan 'Ali] Al-Shattanawfi (d. 713H) regarding the merits of Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir, may Allah sanctify his pure secret, the elders have raised objections to these [stories], some of whom have accused Al-Shattanawfi of lying and opportunism. Amongst them is Hafiz Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali, may Allah bless his soul, as is mentioned in Tabaqat al-Hanabilah under the biography of Qutb al-Jili, may Allah benefit us with his assistance and knowledge, while some others said that he spread many stories, and they seem to have attributed to him stupidity and accepting [both] that which is accurate and that which is not.” (Tariqah Rifa’iyyah, p.59)

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    Default Re: Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Assalam o 'alaykum,

    ‘Allamah ‘Abd al-Hayy Lakhnawi belonged to the Qadri silsilah. He extensivley refuted the exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani.

    ‘Allamah ‘Abd al-Hayy Lakhnawi[5] (d. 1304H / may Allah have mercy on him) was asked, “What is the ruling regarding that person who thinks that saints know and hear the call from far and near and [he] seeks their help with the wording which are used for those present and make vows for them and says that my vow is for them?”

    He replied, “The belief of this person is corrupt (fasid) and there is fear of disbelief (kufr) of that person because the hearing of saints from far is not proven [in Shari'ah]. And knowledge of all of the matters (juziyat) at all times is only specific to Allah Most High. It is stated in Fatawa Bazzaziyyah that whoever says that souls of the pious (mashayikh) are hadhir is a disbeliever (kafir), and it is written in the same book that whoever performed nikah by making Allah and His Messenger to be witnesses become kafir. [This is] because he assumed that the Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) is knower of the unseen…” (Majmu’ah al-Fatawa, 1:46-47)

    It was further asked, “It is the practice of the general public of this city that in the time of distress they call upon the prophets and saints for help (madad) from far, and believe that they are hadhir and nadhir, and when we call them they hear us and make du’a concerning our needs. Is this [type of istimdad] permitted or not?”

    At this the reply came, “This type [of seeking aid] is not merely haram but also shirk as in this [asking for such help] is considered [i.e. implied] that those besides Allah have knowledge of the unseen (‘ilm al-ghayb) and this belief is manifest shirk. Because in Shari’ah, shirk is to associate anyone with Allah in His essence (dhat) and specific attributes (sifat), and knowledge of the unseen (‘ilm al-ghayb) is the specific attribute of Allah as it is mentioned in the books of ‘Aqa’id…” (Majmu’ah al-Fatawa, 1:45-46)

    Another such query stated, “If a person believes that Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir Jaylani (may Allah have mercy on him) has the power to hear anyone who calls him from anywhere and turns his attention towards his [the caller's] situation. How is this belief according to the principles of Shari’ah?”

    The answer came, “This belief is not only against the ‘aqa‘id of the people of Islam but leads to shirk…” (Majmu’ah al-Fatawa, 1:73)

    And he wrote in a reply to a question regarding seeking aid with the wording, “Ya Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir shayy’an lillah“,

    “It is binding and necessary (wajib) to abstain from these sort of recitations. Firstly, [because] this recitation consist of the wording ‘shayy’an lillah‘ and certain jurists consider these wording disbelief (kufr)…

    Secondly, such recitation consists of calling on the dead from a distance and it is not established from the Shari’ah that saints have the power to listen to a call from far distance. However, it is established [from Shari'ah] that the people of the grave hear the salam of the visitors to their graves. But to consider that anyone beside Allah is hadhir nadhir at all times and is aware of the evident and hidden, is shirk… And our ‘ulama have said that anyone who believes that the souls of the saints are hadhir and ‘alim (knowing), is a kafir. Although, Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir Jaylani (may Allah have mercy on him) is one of the great luminaries of the Ummah al-Muhammadiyah (Allah bless him and give him peace) and his virtues and excellent qualities are innumerable, but it is not established that he hears the distressed caller from a distance. And to hold a belief that he is aware of his disciple’s affairs all the time and hear their calls, is shirk.” (Mujmu’ah al-Fatawa, 2:189-190)
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    Default Re: Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Insofar as the above is a response to the quotes in the al-Ghawthiyya thread, it is answered simply:

    The quote from Imam al-Rabbani (ra) has nothing to do with the specific issue. His words on the rank of al-Ghawth al-A`zam (ra) are well-known.

    The other quotes don't say much either. Showing that some parts of a book were deemed unbelievable by certain scholars does not say anything about specific about the issue (which is what this thread seems to aim to do). Prefacing the quotes with one's own (whoever the author is) comment does not change the quotes themselves.

    The quotes in fact pose a problem for the argument the thread is trying to make. The following from the post above is telling enough: "And numerous astonishing sayings were transmitted from a group of elders."

    This is not to mention the scholars and works mentioned in the al-Ghawthiyya thread.
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    Default Re: Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Let us be just here, contents of the book is doubted, and when such a quote like this is mentioned:

    ‘Allamah Zayn al-Din ibn al-Wardi al-Shafi’i (d. 749H / may Allah have mercy on him) said, “Verily, there are many incorrect things and great exaggerations in this book [Bahjat al-Asrar] concerning the status of ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaylani that is only appropriate for divinity (rububiyyah).” (Kashf al-Zunun, 1:25)
    Then it is in reality no brainer for which quote(s) it is referring to. To say it is not referring to a specific quote hence we can't say, is unjust. Honestly ask yourself which quote in the book Bahjat is the above quote referring to.
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    Default Re: Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Assalam o 'alaykum,

    There is no doubt that this ummah has received so much fayd through Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani. His teachings and silsilah are a means of guidance for the awliya', scholars and laymen alike. But it doesn't mean Shaykh Jaylani is superior to every wali before or after him. Mujaddid himself writes that Sayyiduna Mahdi will be superior to Shaykh Jaylani. Also alot of miracles that manifisted at the hands of Shaykh Jaylani doesn't mean he is nadir nadir, aware of everything that goes on in the world and should be called upon for help in distress. This is why 'Allamah Lakhnawi, who belonged to the Qadri silsilah, has termed such beliefs as deviancy and shirk.
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    Default Re: Exaggerations regarding Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir Jaylani - Mujaddid Alf al-Thani

    Quote Originally Posted by al_Zayn View Post
    Let us be just here,
    Is it unjust to ask for accuracy? Justice would entail being accurate. But there really is no need for bold appeals, brother. The author of the above simply needs to be accurate and precise regarding exactly which scholars had problems with which narrations and why. There is a mention of Imam al-Dhahabi's status in the science of rijal, but we are not told exactly which narrations Imam al-Dhahabi deemed inauthentic and why he did. Once that information is available, then one can seek more regarding the why.

    Quote Originally Posted by al_Zayn View Post
    contents of the book is doubted, and when such a quote like this is mentioned:
    Combine the quote you quoted with the one I quoted - what is the conclusion? That "a group of elders" (meaning Sufi imams?) attributed divinity to Sayyidina Ghawth al-A`zam (ra)?! And Shaykh `Uthman dan Fodio? And his shuyukh? And, and?

    Insha'Allah, once the accurate and precise details are provided regarding the above, we can ask Shaykh Muhammad Shareef for clarification.
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